Southend-2

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by sinbad73

Loganair/BMI Regional?

Well, if BA is "warm" but not "hot", it appears as if Aer Lingus could be the culprit - an IAG-owned brand, already used by Stobart elsewhere. We shall see.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by tophat27dt

There is nothing to prevent that. You're getting warmer!

Perhaps operating on behalf of a part of BA already flying Embraers...?

[AirportPlanner1]

The spare E195s could feasibly fill some slots at LGW if BA are still short next year, but they won’t be at LCY because they aren’t certified.

[canberra97]

Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1

The spare E195s could feasibly fill some slots at LGW if BA are still short next year, but they won’t be at LCY because they aren’t certified.

British Airways LGW fleet is based entirely around the A319/320 and B772 and under a different scenario with the current pilots agreement I can't see BACF flying from LGW.

Are you sure about the four additional E190's that BACF are acquiring not being certified for LCY, has this been confirmed?

Why would BACF acquire an orphan fleet of four E190's when they aren't or won't be certified for LCY, it doesn't make sense!

[EI-BUD]

Originally Posted by virginblue

But hasn't BA cut back franchising its brand to other airlines significantly in the past? They used to have BMED, GB Air, Loganair in the past, for a long time it has been just Comair and Sun Air.

Not so much that BA has cut back on franchising. For the most part the franchise arrangements worked. However, some moved on for logical reasons;
BMed; bmi acquired the airline and its routes, and BA got its slots back.
GB Airways; easyJet purchased the airline. The airline that brought easyJet to life with 2 737s!
Loganair; when BA closed its regional operations to centre on London, the connectivity thought GLA/EDI/MAN was mostly gone and moving to BE seemed like a more logical choice.

So I think BA will consider any franchise if the operation adds value and the partner can deliver a consistent brand offering to BA. Sunair is an interesting alliance! It's very niche and could be an ideal fit to replace Stobarts thinner shorter SEN routes, and giving SEN access to BA's audience...

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by canberra97

British Airways LGW fleet is based entirely around the A319/320 and B772 and under a different scenario with the current pilots agreement I can't see BACF flying from LGW.

Are you sure about the four additional E190's that BACF are acquiring not being certified for LCY, has this been confirmed?

Why would BACF acquire an orphan fleet of four E190's when they aren't or won't be certified for LCY, it doesn't make sense!

The 'spare 195's' referred to are the Stobart machines for which no schedule has been published yet, not the additional Cityflyer aircraft

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by canberra97

British Airways LGW fleet is based entirely around the A319/320 and B772 and under a different scenario with the current pilots agreement I can't see BACF flying from LGW.

Are you sure about the four additional E190's that BACF are acquiring not being certified for LCY, has this been confirmed?

Why would BACF acquire an orphan fleet of four E190's when they aren't or won't be certified for LCY, it doesn't make sense!

I think you need to re-read what I said.

FYI BA have a range of aircraft and airlines operating for them at LGW filling the Monarch slots.

Its E195s that aren’t certified, hence Stobart won’t be the new Eastern at LCY.

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by EI-BUD

So I think BA will consider any franchise if the operation adds value and the partner can deliver a consistent brand offering to BA. Sunair is an interesting alliance! It's very niche and could be an ideal fit to replace Stobarts thinner shorter SEN routes, and giving SEN access to BA's audience...

Sun Air will not work at SEN. It is probably the airline in Europe with the strongest focus on business / high yielding pax - to an extent that they operate an extremely expensive aircraft type nobody else flies on chedules any more with extremely low utilization. It really only works from bases like Billund and not from an extremely competitive London base at SEN.

[DC3 Dave]

Originally Posted by speedbreak1

SEN-TFS

Does this flight operate without payload penalties? Has it ever had to do a refuelling stop en-route?

I've not seen it referred to lately, but I believe TFS is restricted to 170 seats, ACE 175. Certainly, refuelling stops have occurred, but I can't recall any mention of them last winter.

Does anyone know if this summer's extreme temperatures caused any issues at SEN on other routes?

[Expressflight]

Originally Posted by DC3 Dave

Does anyone know if this summer's extreme temperatures caused any issues at SEN on other routes?

I did try to keep a particular eye on that this summer and I'm not aware of any fuel stops being required, although cannot state categorically that there were none. One of the mitigating factors will have been that runway 05 was in use this summer much more frequently than normal and that runway does not suffer from the second segment climb restrictions that can sometimes apply when 23 is in use.

[Expressflight]

Excellent August pax figures for SEN at 189,651, that being an increase of 47% on last year.

[shamrock7seal]

More and more trip reports on youtube by Asian and other tourists using SEN as a London departure point. Indicates to me that they are really starting to break into the 'London' market. This time next year they could be processing upwards of 255-265,000 pax per month.

[LTNman]

Seems that Wizz are going to run a service out of Stansted. I thought Southend was on the brink of getting some Wizz flights before Monarch went bust?

[tophat27dt]

Originally Posted by LTNman

Seems that Wizz are going to run a service out of Stansted. I thought Southend was on the brink of getting some Wizz flights before Monarch went bust?

Yes they were

[mikkie4]

Just because WIZZ are going to run A service out of STN don't mean they are not still looking to use SEN

[DC3 Dave]

Never mind Wizz. They're not going operate SEN-GLA when it ends in a month. Nearly 7,000 pax used the route in August. That's 500 more than GRQ (which in itself was a record month).

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[Falcon666]

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...ervice-in-w18/

As previously confirmed on this thread.

DC3 it still comes down to yield , not pax numbers.If it was successful either they wouldn't drop it or somebody else will surely take over the route.

[DC3 Dave]

Yield, yes understood. But it was always going to be a "cheap as chips" route.

[tophat27dt]

Looks like the A320 that went U/S yesterday causing 6 hours delay both ways for the Malta flight ( replaced temporarily by a Gatwick A320), has "broken down" again in Paris causing a few delays this evening.

[tophat27dt]

OE-IVR positioning in from Gatwick at 1930 to assist.