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Being new to this thread please excuse my naivety. With the announcement today that FR are switching from LGW to STN ex BFS and the slots now floating about for LGW in IAG workshops,is there any possibility of IAG reinstating BHD/LGW using either BA or EI?
Or maybe them being sold to Norwegian?
I use the BFS/LGW route for business and it has always been rammed. Living in the east of NI when EI pulled out of BHD /LGW it is a pain routing out of BFS. EI's rotations were always well used.
Love to hear others views on this one.
Or maybe them being sold to Norwegian?
I use the BFS/LGW route for business and it has always been rammed. Living in the east of NI when EI pulled out of BHD /LGW it is a pain routing out of BFS. EI's rotations were always well used.
Love to hear others views on this one.
If EI were to bring back the route I think they would be competing more directly with Easyjet, albeit there would no doubt be some codeshare traffic from BA.
Sadly though I don't think there is any chance that IAG will use the slots for Belfast if they get them back, they will use them elsewhere, most probably for LEVEL.
The best chance of getting competition on Belfast/Gatwick is if Flybe decide they want to grab the remedy slots like they have done at Heathrow on the Scottish routes. They used to fly Belfast/Gatwick and only ended it as far as I recall as they needed to raise some cash and got a big offer from Easyjet for their Gatwick slots.
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inOban, if only I could claim on expenses!
If there are FR slots at LGW, is it really worth adding even more flights on London-Belfast? There's no net loss in seats to London, only to Gatwick, which itself is already covered by EZY. I know it's an important city pairing, but surely there comes a point where the market is just going to become too diluted. Obviously fares would drop if BA or Norwegian or whoever were to use FR's LGW-BFS slots, but yield would be trashed for everyone involved
If there are FR slots at LGW, is it really worth adding even more flights on London-Belfast? There's no net loss in seats to London, only to Gatwick, which itself is already covered by EZY. I know it's an important city pairing, but surely there comes a point where the market is just going to become too diluted. Obviously fares would drop if BA or Norwegian or whoever were to use FR's LGW-BFS slots, but yield would be trashed for everyone involved
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As another poster said before, don’t actually think that IAG - BA or An other - can use these slots to fly Belfast Gatwick, as the slots were taken away from EI at BHD in the first place to enable the EC conditions on IAG’s takeover of EI to be cleared, and that condition remains in place. But I stand to be corrected on that if someone knows different?
Realistically Belfast to London is well served - one logical carrier flying to Heathrow (IAG), the biggest airline at LGW flying there (EZY), the same to LTN (EZY). The biggest airline at STN now flying there (FR). You could argue the only two oddballs are flybe LCY (rather than say BACF) but flybe are a much bigger presence in Belfast than BA, so sensible enough. And EZY to STN, but EZY have been flying this route going back to ‘Go’ days and they are the biggest brand in NI, so don’t see them giving any quarter on BFS-STN just because FR have finally made an appearance on that route.
Anyhow, I don’t think anybody should be getting too fretful. The London market is well covered as it is.
Realistically Belfast to London is well served - one logical carrier flying to Heathrow (IAG), the biggest airline at LGW flying there (EZY), the same to LTN (EZY). The biggest airline at STN now flying there (FR). You could argue the only two oddballs are flybe LCY (rather than say BACF) but flybe are a much bigger presence in Belfast than BA, so sensible enough. And EZY to STN, but EZY have been flying this route going back to ‘Go’ days and they are the biggest brand in NI, so don’t see them giving any quarter on BFS-STN just because FR have finally made an appearance on that route.
Anyhow, I don’t think anybody should be getting too fretful. The London market is well covered as it is.
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You'd think flybe management would have thanked BIA and the team of people who looked after their passengers and crew so well, a little bit more. Also, isn't the aircraft that had the 'rough landing' landing yesterday the same one that had the engine fire and diverted to BFS some time ago.
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inOban, if only I could claim on expenses!
If there are FR slots at LGW, is it really worth adding even more flights on London-Belfast? There's no net loss in seats to London, only to Gatwick, which itself is already covered by EZY. I know it's an important city pairing, but surely there comes a point where the market is just going to become too diluted. Obviously fares would drop if BA or Norwegian or whoever were to use FR's LGW-BFS slots, but yield would be trashed for everyone involved
If there are FR slots at LGW, is it really worth adding even more flights on London-Belfast? There's no net loss in seats to London, only to Gatwick, which itself is already covered by EZY. I know it's an important city pairing, but surely there comes a point where the market is just going to become too diluted. Obviously fares would drop if BA or Norwegian or whoever were to use FR's LGW-BFS slots, but yield would be trashed for everyone involved
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You'd think flybe management would have thanked BIA and the team of people who looked after their passengers and crew so well, a little bit more. Also, isn't the aircraft that had the 'rough landing' landing yesterday the same one that had the engine fire and diverted to BFS some time ago.
Nope - the aircraft that had the engine fire was GFLBC.
In terms of thanks - what do you expect flybe to do? The airport and everyone sprung into action and did their job - exactly what they are paid for. Surely yes a thank you goes a long way but what more do you want than a thank you? I know the crew have all thanked everyone and I know there is a repatriation/rescue team there who have all thanked the emergency workers and management for their sterling efforts.
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Without going into too much detail, I operated the 'rescue' flight last night taking the passengers from the original flight to INV and they had nothing but good things to say about both Flybe and both airports in terms of how things and they were handled during what was clearly for some a very traumatic day. As somebody has said, it looks like everyone just did their job just as I would have done had I been part of the crew on the original flight. The Flybe crisis/incident team were on hand all day to support those pax who needed it and I'm sure would have been greatly appreciative of all help received from the airport.
I wouldn't expect thanks from passengers for getting them off a stricken aircraft just as I'm fairly certain BFS staff/airport don't expect thanks for dealing with an emergency situation for which we are all trained for and when the time comes are paid to deal with.
I wouldn't expect thanks from passengers for getting them off a stricken aircraft just as I'm fairly certain BFS staff/airport don't expect thanks for dealing with an emergency situation for which we are all trained for and when the time comes are paid to deal with.
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Any idea if Ryanair will be releasing flights to Faro for S18?
In their press release for S18 schedules they say there is 14 routes to fly in S18. But only 13 routes are on sale at the minute.
In their press release for S18 schedules they say there is 14 routes to fly in S18. But only 13 routes are on sale at the minute.
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Interesting one off flight tomorrow. Pity it was not more regular!
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BFS BHD - I suspect FR will be putting on FAO soon. Guessing at 3 per week and will use the spare slot (Berlin) on Tuesday to go to FAO
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BFS BHD - I suspect FR will be putting on FAO soon. Guessing at 3 per week and will use the spare slot (Berlin) on Tuesday to go to FAO
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