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Old 19th Feb 2018, 07:00
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And Thomas Cook for their Winter Ski trips to Plovdiv.
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 13:22
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3rd Ryanair aircraft for W18/19?

Winter 2018/19 flights are being added on the Ryanair app today and there appears to be a 3rd aircraft needed in the mornings with Manchester going two daily.

Monday for example:

06:10 Wroclaw
06:30 Manchester
06:45 Stansted

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Old 20th Feb 2018, 13:29
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Great news hopefully a few new European routes.


Is it safe to assume that FAO will not be coming back this summer?
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 14:05
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MAN going double daily? 🤔
I wonder who will lose? Can’t be good news for BE. If passengers choose price over airport handiness surely it will affect Flybe’s 7 flights
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What makes you think BE will be most affected? They land significantly closer to Belfast than EZY and fly aircraft that are profitable with an average 76% load factor. They could easily strip out a couple of rotations and still offer 5x daily. Looking at STN it seems EZY have trimmed down a bit over summer and using A319's more, I daresay they will do something similar. They held out well against FR to LGW and look who flinched. Where BE might have been prepared to concede on thinner routes I don't think they will for the likes of MAN or BHX.
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 14:27
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Also, looking at the timings they are great to get you into Manchester nice and early if your planning a day trip but who want to come back on the last flight of the day at 16.55? Realistically you need to be going through security at about 15.30 and that's being optimistic. It's not really business friendly.
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Would BFS make a deal with Loganair on ABZ and INV I wonder also just a thought
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 15:37
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There are no rules that if you depart by one airline you have to fly back with the same airline. Mix and match springs to the mind.
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 15:38
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Interesting thought BHD2BFS??
Loganair seem to be winning the current tussle between the airlines in Scotland
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 15:42
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So Belfast can't attract any new carriers despite the routes conference and all the 'tourist pulls'?
I mean we really are in the wild west here.
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 16:10
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In the past 2 years BFS has gained 2 new airlines operating 17 routes, adding over 1.1 million seats for sale from the airport. Plus, the airport has seen considerable expansion from easyJet (4 new routes) and Jet2 (9 new routes). Overall, the airport has added net 1.5 million seats for sale in just 2 years - that's a 27% increase in capacity which is remarkable.

Passenger numbers for the airport also show a shift towards international passengers. 2017 alone saw a 31% increase in international passenger numbers, many of whom are tourists to the region.
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 16:14
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Yes I agree with you but not everyone would for various reasons including lack of will to bother. Also although fares are displayed as one way try booking them one way and they often come out higher, as I have proven today when booking BFS-STN, it landed up despite FR's low one way fares because of timings they weren't suitable and it landed up £5 each cheaper with EZY, and this might well affect them with MAN, additionally EZY allow you to combine say LPL and MAN as a return and this often makes it cheaper, many times I've used LTN/STN and I know people who use EDI/GLA for instance. FR will no doubt always have the upper hand with pricing I'm sure.
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Wroclaw off sale for the winter at the moment. I checked Stansted, Manchester and Milan on a Wednesday at the start of November, 3 departures all around 6.30 ish.
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Wroclaw times/dates are there just not appearing on the month list. If you select a date in October and go across to November dates they should be there.

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New route to Venice with EasyJet on sale.

2 Weekly from 22nd June.
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So all the existing Ryanair routes out of Belfast seem to be going on sale for winter 18 at the moment with first departures needing 3 aircraft.
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BFS BHD

As predicted. Marvellous news.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 08:33
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If Ryanair go 2 daily to Man, that would be up to 5 daily on some days if Ezy keep their current frequency. What % of pax need to move from Bhd to Bfs before Flybe start to reduce frequency and become less competitive? Probably not that much.
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The MAN route is fairly evenly split between BHD/BFS. Any pax flying FR will be a mixture of BE and EZY plus pax they attract themselves through really low fares so yes the likelihood is BHD will see a decline, neither EZY or BE will drop fares as low as FR, but its worth remembering £12.99 is not a sustainable price point long term and eventually such fares will fizzle out, either because they grow enough business or because they cut the route or reduce frequency, but one thing is certain, those fares are not sustainable, FR can easily make money elsewhere and their pockets are not everlasting despite the impression they give. It surprises me they've not tackled LPL where they are naturally stronger and had huge success numbers wise with last time around. Just begs the question why they didn't move to BFS if the runway length was such an issue, and I'd consider it possible they will again exit the NI aviation scene if they can't make money.
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Below is the press release for easyJet's new route to Venice. It's going to be operated year-round, which is great news. This is a second attempt for easyJet on this route, having operated it between 2007-2008, so hopefully this time they have more success.

https://www.belfastairport.com/blog-...oute-to-venice

The addition of Venice means that for the first time ever, easyJet will offer more than 1 million international seats from Belfast, and almost 5 million seats in total.

Overall, 6.98 million seats are being offered from BFS in 2018, including almost 1.1 million from Ryanair and over 0.5 million from Jet2.com.
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