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Old 10th Jul 2019, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street View Post
It appears some LGW traffic being diverted to LTN due to technical issues. Might be an interesting evening.
All drifting back to LGW now, I think Luton only had EZY diverts
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 08:10
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I think seven easy diverts. Wizz have 18 arrivals this morning 0700-0900.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 21:49
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Should be a busy weekend with Wimbledon finals, F1 at Silverstone & Cricket final at Lords!
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 09:35
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Moscow and St Petersburg next new Wizz destinations apparently
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 09:44
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https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-Report.pdf

Make of that what you will!!
The coordinators report sums it up perfectly!
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 09:46
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Moscow and St Petersburg next new Wizz destinations apparently
On sale, 1 x daily each from 1st October
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 10:04
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Great news! Very nice additions. Timings outbound:

LTN-VKO:
0650-1235: 1, 3
1525-2100: 2, 4, 6
0655-1235: 7
0730-1315: 5

LTN-LED:
Daily: 2240-0405+1
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Falcon666 View Post
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-Report.pdf

Make of that what you will!!
The coordinators report sums it up perfectly!
So I am confused. Movements and passengers are showing a 12% drop for Winter 2019 due to a cut back in slots yet the slots seem to have hardly been changed when viewed per hour. They seem to have been cut back so they can be increased in the summer. 4 slots have been added to 21:00-22:00 but 8 have been cut from 22:00-23:00.

Despite LLAOL spending £160million on increasing capacity arrivals is operating at 50% over capacity in its peak hour. There are also runway constraints as LLAL decided not to put in new taxiways that went to the ends of the runway.
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 11:51
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Moscow and St Petersburg next new Wizz destinations apparently
Currently the visa will cost you more than the flights and are a hassle. Unless the Russian gov is about to change things then the routes may struggle
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 12:58
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Currently the visa will cost you more than the flights and are a hassle. Unless the Russian gov is about to change things then the routes may struggle
EZY gave up Moscow for this reason, and Podeba at STN didnít last long to LED last year...their fares were pretty competitive and timings much better than the Wizz overnighter. The visa situation wonít change any time soon.

I donít think these flights will be a success but I hope to be proved wrong. Iíve been to Moscow and would encourage anyone interested in visiting to do so while the flights last and theyíre cheap.
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 17:52
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Looks like Wizz have got many slots at LGW and even some slots at STN. Tuesday 16th should see the confirmed allocated slots. Wizz were linked with buying the TC LGW slots so we will have to see over the next week what the final outlook is for the winter.
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 21:31
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I can remember when Easyjet got their first slots at Gatwick with Luton playing second fiddle ever since. Wonder if the same will eventually happen with Wizz.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 11:38
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
I can remember when Easyjet got their first slots at Gatwick with Luton playing second fiddle ever since. Wonder if the same will eventually happen with Wizz.
I doubt that number of slots will ever be available at LGW again unless they get the approval for second runway. EZY run the same routes from 4 London airports so why should not WZZ do similar to their other bases? But then again a T2 at Luton has got to attract a doubling of based aircraft by both and RYR I would think.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 14:23
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I doubt that number of slots will ever be available at LGW again unless they get the approval for second runway. EZY run the same routes from 4 London airports so why should not WZZ do similar to their other bases? But then again a T2 at Luton has got to attract a doubling of based aircraft by both and RYR I would think.
I agree with you that T2 would result in Wizz and Easy and Ryanair increasing their fleets but equally in line with planned growth I would not be surprised in Jet2 coming on board at LTN with a small fleet. What are your views in relation to Wizz operating A321LR as I reckon they will operate long haul from LTN.

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Old 13th Jul 2019, 15:01
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I agree with you that T2 would result in Wizz and Easy and Ryanair increasing their fleets but equally in line with planned growth I would not be surprised in Jet2 coming on board at LTN with a small fleet. What are your views in relation to Wizz operating A321LR as I reckon they will operate long haul from LTN.

Not so sure about that, Dubai maybe, unless LLA can get a 500m starter strip. The XLRs might get from US East coast direct to their bases in Eastern Europe, unless they do a stop in Luton.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 15:28
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The Runway at LTN is too short for a fully loaded 321XLR -WZZ will either use another UK airfield or go direct from their European bases .
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 16:11
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Originally Posted by pabely View Post
Not so sure about that, Dubai maybe, unless LLA can get a 500m starter strip. The XLRs might get from US East coast direct to their bases in Eastern Europe, unless they do a stop in Luton.
Pretty sure Wizz and the Airport will be aware of this.The option of a starter strip is a possibility- just a look at the scoping documents currently with the planning Inspectorate shows land being earmarked as coming under the airport control at the end of 26
Also donít forget if, and itís still a big if, the airport does get T2 then who gets which Terminal.They are unlikely to split Easy or Wizz flights between both Terminals so as they are the dominant airlines at the airport will they get one Terminal each with the other airlines split between ? Plans show several stands for long haul at T2 so the airport are still keen to attract them.
Would a T2 have any kind of transit facilities? Would any airline at Luton need them?

Several years before the A321XLRs are delivered so anything could happen in the mean time.
One thing for sure is the airport isnít standing still, five years plus of a building site and doesnít look like stopping anytime soon.

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Old 13th Jul 2019, 16:44
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If Wizz decided to fly long haul from the UK they would use their slots at Gatwick if they have any sense. Gatwick has shown that providing a quality product pays dividends as they have a diverse long haul market. Luton is only interested in the Eastern European market and the very bottom of the European market with its cheap infrastructure. IT services out of Luton continue to fall as holidaymakers retreat to Gatwick and Stansted as demand drops away. With Lutonís short runway why would Wizz want to use Luton when there are far better airports that could handle long haul better?
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 20:22
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 21:41
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
If Wizz decided to fly long haul from the UK they would use their slots at Gatwick if they have any sense. Gatwick has shown that providing a quality product pays dividends as they have a diverse long haul market. Luton is only interested in the Eastern European market and the very bottom of the European market with its cheap infrastructure. IT services out of Luton continue to fall as holidaymakers retreat to Gatwick and Stansted as demand drops away. With Lutonís short runway why would Wizz want to use Luton when there are far better airports that could handle long haul better?
Except LGWís OTP is absolutely pitiful.
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