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[goldeneye]

With the talks on US Pre-clearance continuing, which terminal is likely to have this facility as the operations are mixed over the 3 terminals with different carriers.

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

Originally Posted by goldeneye

With the talks on US Pre-clearance continuing, which terminal is likely to have this facility as the operations are mixed over the 3 terminals with different carriers.

USPC will certainly be in the expanded T2. It will almost certainly involve one of the piers being a capable of sterilisation for the facility - which will be heavily used in the morning and early afternoon, but less so in the evening.

[LAX_LHR]

The vast majority (80%) of flights will be from the extended T2, which will include all the US bound flights.

T3 will have pretty much just Ryanair and Flybe as tenants.

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

Would Easyjet and any other Locos move to T3 do you think?

I'd have thought Flybe would have reason to be either in T2 or next to it to allow their transfer business to develop...

[Sholto Douglas]

I agree 100pc that Flybe would be better to move to T2 for connections and the same, to a far lesser degree, applies to British Airways if they both are to support their partners operating out of Manchester.

[LAX_LHR]

I believe the fact that the vast majority of stands at T2 will be jetbridge stands, and the layout, means that Flybe will remain in T3. Don't forget, it's proposed that T2/T3 will be linked airside, regardless of how long the walk is means it's less important for Flybe to be in T2.

I don't think T3 would be big enough for a Flybe/Ryanair and Easyjet scenario.

[brian70]

Originally Posted by LAX_LHR

Air Malta will still run 2 weekly on behalf of Thomson, so it's neither a loss of a route or an airline.

I'm not entirely sure that's happening now, as my wife was due to fly with Air Malta in July and her flight has been moved to Easyjet

[BHX5DME]

Norwegian Schedule !

As it stands MAN-LPA and BHX-LPA finish in Feb and MAN-TFS finished in March. If they are being re-timed then they're leaving it rather late (not unknown for NAX

[LAX_LHR]

Norwegian:

MAN-LPA was announced as winter seasonal, while MAN-TFS was announced as year round, so, awaiting that flight to be loaded.

Despite cancelling the MAX slots, other slots still held to make ALC 3 weekly, and also a 4 weekly PMI.

Back when BCN was announced, it was given about 3 weeks lead in time so it's not a worry about TFS just yet.

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

Originally Posted by LAX_LHR

I don't think T3 would be big enough for a Flybe/Ryanair and Easyjet scenario.

I'd have thought they could make some changes to extend Terminal 3 to handle a larger flying programme?

Presumably at some point T1/3 will be redeveloped, so a contingency for that capacity has to be considered and implementable at that stage.

[LAX_LHR]

The issue with T3 and accommodating FR/BE/U2.

T3 for S17 will have 19 stands, to which 5 are domestic gates (latter obviously beneficial to Flybe)

Then consider for S17 Easyjet will have 12 based, Ryanair 9 based and Flybe 10 based (with multiple other overnighters).

If we then consider growth scale in a mediocre scenario for the next 10 years, it's not implausible to consider Easyjet at 18-20 and Ryanair could have about 15 based.

That means T3 would need about 40-45 stands, and there just isn't the space for that kind of build (MAG love car parks so unlikely to get rid of the nice big money earning car parks near the terminals).

Therefore, seems unlikely to see both Ryanair and Easyjet in the same T3.

[LAX_LHR]

SFO to Manchester | http://www.flysfo.com/

Nice little advert for MAN.

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

My suspicion is that the large surface car park over which any "T3 area" airfield extension would go can be replaced with MSCPs. Costs money, but land is limited.

[LAX_LHR]

The large surface car park *can* be replaced, anything can, it's another question all together if there is desire to.

Given the old MAN policy of using apron to park cars (thankfully now gone), I suspect there would be a reluctance to replace said car park with apron space until every other option has been exhausted, and it would take a while to reach that point.

[LAX_LHR]

Cathay Pacific will be just 3 weekly for May, before going 5 weekly from June onwards.

No flights on 1/9/16/22/29 May.

No idea what's caused the reduction but at least it's just 1 month. LHR also has lots of dates where it goes from 5 to 4 daily in May, so, looks like it's a system wide issue and not MAN specific.

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

Are CX still aiming at daily by W17?

[phil160]

the works on t3 will start on the 23rd jan and last till the 12 may. it will be a segregated walkway for both inbound and out bound pax.
part of area seven car park is closed for provisional works.
at hale top bus depot there is tree clearance on going around the compound.
also from march area 7 will close. any staff that work on t2 and the station will remain in staff west, any staff that work on t1/3 and Olympic house will be relocated to staff east which is currently the jet park on styal road, this will be the setup for the next 2 years.
so one would guess that the major works are to begin in march.

[andy mach 1]

Hainan service to Beijing being promoted in Nottingham Market Square with the Chinese new year celebrations.

[BHX5DME]

It appears that MAN are having go out of their catchment area to get punters onto this service !
Birmingham now Nottingham.
Not sure the demand is really there outside of London ?

[LAX_LHR]

Hainan were 92% average for summer, 79% winter average so far. Fares in line with those out of LHR so yes, flight clearly struggling.