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Old 26th Aug 2014, 07:56
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It is always funny to see, how airlines that produce marginal profit per year can all of a sudden loose so much money within one week...
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it quite simple all the fixed costs such as aircraft leases etc etc still have to be paid.

If the planes don't fly its scary how fast everything racks up.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 08:46
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It is always funny to see, how airlines that produce marginal profit per year can all of a sudden loose so much money within one week...
Eh? What a strange observation.

Your margin has no bearing on your costs.
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I wonder how much some of the U.K. airports made from having all those extra a/c parked on stands for several days?
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Volcanologist Haraldur Siguršsson claimed that it is possible that the underground magma from Bįršarbunga may seep into the volcanic system of Askja volcano and ignite a powerful eruption in that region. Still, he thinks it is more likely that the current activity will not lead to any activity above ground.
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EASA Airworthiness Directives Publishing Tool

For those that are interested.
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Old 27th Aug 2014, 09:15
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Interestingly quiet about the volcano issue since weekend.
Nevertheless 3 reports of 5+ on Richter scale in last 6 hours today.
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its not finished by a long shot I have been watching it in an amateur fashion.

The dyke is not extending and is now outside the ice field and has stopped propagating forwards but is still working down and left and right. They use a thing called harmonics to see how much larva is moving and there is loads of it moving fast.

The main volcano crater has 700meters of ice sitting on top of it. But they can see that the chamber under it is still filling and pressurising. The 5.7 quake is the largest quake since 2008.

If it does go bang which some seem to think it is just a matter of time is going to be big.

If the dyke works its way to the surface and goes first it may stop the under ice sheet eruption happening but it may cause the crater to collapse.

All very interesting from 1000's of nautical miles away.
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Old 27th Aug 2014, 14:56
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About 700 NM from Aberdeen
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There is no info on the exact cam location, but by the look of it, it should be somewhere 25-30 km to the NE of Vatnajokull, looking over the flat sandy plain between Bardarbunga and Askja.

Edit: managed to find the location (approximately 64°58'33"N 16°29'25"W):

Another webcam has been put up overlooking Bįršabunga volcano. The new one is situated on Vašalda peak in the central highlands, just north of Vatnajökull glacier.
The distance to Bįršarbunga is approximately 60 km (37 mi).

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Old 28th Aug 2014, 11:28
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Another 5 on the scale under the ice.

And to my uneducated eye they seem to be getting nearer the surface.
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The webcam is now showing (1215UTC) something in the middle distance, it may be 'venting', or blown dust. it appears to be blowing to the right.
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Strong winds are picking up the sand and dust. Been like that all day. The volcano is the white streak on the far horizon.
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Thanks andrasz, the fixed webcam appears to be looking approximately south-west, based on the sunlight.
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Sprungur ķ Holuhrauni į myndbandi | RŚV

Video: Fractures in Holuhraun North of Bįršarbunga | Iceland Review
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Another Volcano on yellow alert now.

Askja volcano
◾The dyke from Bįršarbunga volcano has entered Askja volcano. Not the fissure swarm, the volcano it self.
◾Askja volcano status has been elevated to Yellow.

Bįršarbunga volcano
◾Cauldrons in Vatnajökull glacier that is on top of Bįršarbunga volcano have not grown during the night.
◾The water seems to be flowing into Grķmsvötn (Grķmsfjall volcano) lake. It has risen close to 15 meters in the past few days.
◾Earthquake activity is high. Both in the main volcano were a magnitude 5,4 earthquake (EMSC magnitude, USGS magnitude) took place today (28-August-2014) at 08:13 UTC. The earthquake took place in the caldera rim as most of the large earthquakes have happened.
◾Over 1300 earthquakes happened yesterday in the north end of the dyke swarm.
◾Cracks have started to happen in the crust above the dyke. This means the dyke is getting wider and is higher up in the crust then suggested by earthquake activity. There are reports of small cauldrons in Dyngjujökull glacier in the area, in the place were the glacier is thinnest and ending.
◾Harmonic tremor remains high on all SIL stations around Bįršarbunga volcano.

The situation is extremely dynamic and is going to change fast in next 24 to 48 hours. I am now close to 80% sure that an eruption is going to take place in both Askja volcano and Bįršarbunga volcano, since minor eruptions have been taking place under the glacier already.
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And who excartly is that quote from mad_jock?
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The quote is from this blog, the author is calling himself a hobby scientist - we have a few of those here as well:
Iceland geology | Volcano and earthquake activity in Iceland
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 00:36
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Eruption Has Started

as reported here...

Iceland geology | Volcano and earthquake activity in Iceland

Eruption has started in the dyke area. The eruption appears clearly on Mķla web camera. It can be viewed here....
Bįršarbunga
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Eruption has started...

Official information from the Icelandic Met Office website - Home-page - Icelandic Meteorological Office | Icelandic Meteorological office

Warning
A fissure eruption has started north of Dynjujökull.
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