DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6
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I guess when it ceases to have a terminal building? Even then I would suggest it becomes an Aerodrome before dropping to Airfield? Either way DTVA still has some way to go before that happens.
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A completely unnecessary and inaccurate article in today's Northern Echo, the airport has suitable facilities to cater for the number of passengers it currently has, with more being sought. It sounds like this guy travelled through the airport just before the new Cafe opened in departures and for whatever reason it's taken until now for the Echo to print it.
Durham Tees Valley Airport rejects passenger's 'total lack of facilities' claim (From The Northern Echo)
Durham Tees Valley Airport rejects passenger's 'total lack of facilities' claim (From The Northern Echo)
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Beafer, the article is most definitely not factual that's why I chose to criticise it, and don't even get me started on the type of people that post those ridiculous comments.
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Legally the current DVTA is a "licensed aerodrome", which it needs to be to accept public transport passenger flights. In this respect neither and airport or airfield exists.
If flying is to continue it remains an aerodrome (for local planning legislation purposes), question is whether it remains licensed, or becomes unlicensed and accordingly restricts movements to GA which do not require a licensed aerodrome and training (by aircraft with a weight 2730KG or less).
I hope that things work out at DTVA. I have seen too many Master Plans which were mere pie in the sky with no robust business case, on occasions to keep Local Planning Authorities sweet to permit partial non-aviation development on the site.
As time passes a case to support a position that the aerodrome is no longer viable as a business is the prelude to cessation of flying and re-development of the whole site.
Legally the current DVTA is a "licensed aerodrome", which it needs to be to accept public transport passenger flights. In this respect neither and airport or airfield exists.
If flying is to continue it remains an aerodrome (for local planning legislation purposes), question is whether it remains licensed, or becomes unlicensed and accordingly restricts movements to GA which do not require a licensed aerodrome and training (by aircraft with a weight 2730KG or less).
I hope that things work out at DTVA. I have seen too many Master Plans which were mere pie in the sky with no robust business case, on occasions to keep Local Planning Authorities sweet to permit partial non-aviation development on the site.
As time passes a case to support a position that the aerodrome is no longer viable as a business is the prelude to cessation of flying and re-development of the whole site.
Levy
sorry guys,I've forgotten...After the previous articles..what exactly does the £6 levy go towards.
It's no secret the facilities are on a par with the worst of airports.
Not sure what can be done..its a catch 22 situation
No flights=no passengers=no facilities=no hope? That's the aviation side of the airport...however the master plan when up and running,may,just may, provide an aviation future?
It's no secret the facilities are on a par with the worst of airports.
Not sure what can be done..its a catch 22 situation
No flights=no passengers=no facilities=no hope? That's the aviation side of the airport...however the master plan when up and running,may,just may, provide an aviation future?
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Came into Newcastle on the first KLM this morning. Airport was open with plenty of ploughs keeping things clear and safe. Sat in the A1 in the roadworks and was cursing my decision but got home at a sensible time in the end. Checked DTV when I got in and noticed the airport is snow closed and that the 1533 diverted to Newcastle. Proved I made the right decision to stick with Newcastle at this time of year. Such a shame I think like this but how many other regular travellers do the same?
KLM
just hope the relationship between the airports major operator and the owners is strong.
Late out again this morning due airport snow clearance and the subsequent connection problems in Amsterdam .this followed by diversion to newcastle for same reasons.
It's all very well courting klm but surely a professional airport service must be provided in order for the relationship to prosper??:ugh
I know it costs money to provide equipment ma power de iced etc..maybe if peel spent some of the £6 passenger tax on these problems people would be more understanding??
Late out again this morning due airport snow clearance and the subsequent connection problems in Amsterdam .this followed by diversion to newcastle for same reasons.
It's all very well courting klm but surely a professional airport service must be provided in order for the relationship to prosper??:ugh
I know it costs money to provide equipment ma power de iced etc..maybe if peel spent some of the £6 passenger tax on these problems people would be more understanding??
Do we know how much snow there was? Beafer might report from walking the Alsation. Newcastle fares better being closer to the sea and obviously has more staff and equipment to clear the snow. Perhaps its too much of an investment for so few days of the year.
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I suspect you are right, it would be too expensive to maintain the facilities for the few days. I'm not knocking the airport for clearly making an economic judgement call. By the same token though, if that investment isn't made, they can't expect Jo Public to take the risk during the worst of the winter when an alternative is just a short drive away.
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It's luck of the draw, even Manchester couldn't remain open today, as N707ZS said Newcastle may well have less than us? There are times when the situation is reversed and Newcastle is shut whilst we are open.
Half the time the Amsterdam flight gets delayed or cancelled due to snow it's at the Amsterdam end anyway.
Both an issue and a non-issue at the same time.
Half the time the Amsterdam flight gets delayed or cancelled due to snow it's at the Amsterdam end anyway.
Both an issue and a non-issue at the same time.
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I see some more news has appeared - a new Microlight school is opening up and there is a one off charter to Lapland by Newmarket Holidays - flying to Pajala in Sweden! All on the airports website.
Blimey - a microlight school, and I thought the parachute school was a bit odd. Good luck to them for giving it a go.
A parachute centre and a microlight school does seem to be an odd way to sell houses though - presumably they'll be at their busiest when people want to be out in their gardens.
A parachute centre and a microlight school does seem to be an odd way to sell houses though - presumably they'll be at their busiest when people want to be out in their gardens.
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SWBKCB has forecast it about right I would say. The bloody awful racket that the Para Drop aircraft makes ruined just about every nice weekend since they began operating. And now they are talking about Microlights. Representions have been made to the Airport regarding the noise pollution caused by the Para Drop aircraft but has fallen on deaf ears. There was a distinct cheer around our neighbourhood when the news filtered out that the aircraft had been damaged recently.
Fire cover
Think the notam means that the airport "man" up purely for the schedules and the rest of the time the guys will be doing other duties?
Suppose that's one of the reasons DTV doesn't get any diversions of note any more as the cover cant be relied upon and so airlines don't plan to come?
Just another obstacle in the path of airlines
DTV the most welcoming airport..not!
The snowtams are the usual ones pushed out by airports,again though with only a couple of guys and a clapped out tractor don't expect miracles!
Suppose that's one of the reasons DTV doesn't get any diversions of note any more as the cover cant be relied upon and so airlines don't plan to come?
Just another obstacle in the path of airlines
DTV the most welcoming airport..not!
The snowtams are the usual ones pushed out by airports,again though with only a couple of guys and a clapped out tractor don't expect miracles!
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Originally Posted by Mike Tee
SWBKCB has forecast it about right I would say. The bloody awful racket that the Para Drop aircraft makes ruined just about every nice weekend since they began operating. And now they are talking about Microlights. Representions have been made to the Airport regarding the noise pollution caused by the Para Drop aircraft but has fallen on deaf ears. There was a distinct cheer around our neighbourhood when the news filtered out that the aircraft had been damaged recently.
or what???!!! It's an AIRPORT! Don't like aircraft noise then hard luck pal because unless you've lived next to it for over 74 years you ain't got a case!
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Suppose that's one of the reasons DTV doesn't get any diversions of note any more as the cover cant be relied upon and so airlines don't plan to come?
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DTV the most welcoming airport..not!
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Let me try and explain. I haven,t quite reached the 74 years living next to the airport which you deem necessary to be able to be form an opinion regarding what I and many others find to be an annoying intrusion to our quality of life. I "have" lived next to the airport for well over fifty years and in all that time the only other reason we have had cause to complain was when the Police operated the "Islander" with it's very noisy piston engines. Lots of us where regularly woken in the dead of night by that aircraft droning around at low level, flaps deployed and high power settings. Thankfully that is a thing of the past. The "normal" airport movements of departures, arrivals and circuit training of all types from club light aircraft to passenger jet transports are not a problem as their noise "footprint" and duration is generally quite short.
The Para Drop aircraft operation can in no way be described as normal for an operational "Airport" and is more suited to a rural flying club. The aircraft used is noted as being particularly noisy and the practice of climbing to "drop height" in the overhead before a rapid descent, re-load and repeat the process is intrusive and annoying.
I wonder just what ATC think of the possible operation of Microlights from an "International Airport" in controlled airspace !!.
The Para Drop aircraft operation can in no way be described as normal for an operational "Airport" and is more suited to a rural flying club. The aircraft used is noted as being particularly noisy and the practice of climbing to "drop height" in the overhead before a rapid descent, re-load and repeat the process is intrusive and annoying.
I wonder just what ATC think of the possible operation of Microlights from an "International Airport" in controlled airspace !!.
Good try ??
It seems to me that Peel are trying very hard to give the impression that they actually care about the airport...without actually doing much at all and certainly not putting their hand in their pocket!
New Ga policy
Para school
Microlight training
A master plan
Not much input Methinks and certainly not much income.
Beefier may well be right..10 years and a lucrative housing estate in place.
New Ga policy
Para school
Microlight training
A master plan
Not much input Methinks and certainly not much income.
Beefier may well be right..10 years and a lucrative housing estate in place.
Doesn't it make you think that they are trying to do something for once, people have moaned on hear nothing is happening, when we do get the first green shoots we get the NIMBYs and knockers back again.
I personally would like to see more of the executive jet work and hopefully some sort of airliner type business which has been promised for some time.
I personally would like to see more of the executive jet work and hopefully some sort of airliner type business which has been promised for some time.