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Old 21st Sep 2014, 05:48
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When will it close The only selfish hope is if they close Peel persuade Eastern and KLM to transfer ops like for like down to DSA
They'd certainly fill those flights there
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 07:54
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More horse manure from the usual suspects.

The airport had most stands full yesterday with business jets which must of made a fair bit of money, they actually pay to land at the airport not like other local airports who have to pay airlines to come and land. Take a look at the DTV movements site.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 09:13
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Thumbs up Biz Jets

Yes pretty impressive movements yesterday.
The problem with that lot is its only for a couple of months per year while the grouse shooting is on..the winter months are usually dire with only half a dozen movements at weekends>

I think for a positive airport future we need more than that?
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 09:57
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with business jets which must of made a fair bit of money,
Must they? Or are the local airports (and handling agents) competing to get his small group of customers as well??
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 16:24
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SWBKCB, it's very difficult to compete for corporate traffic, given that if you're wealthy enough to be able to charter/own your own private aircraft, then you choose your destination airport based on the distance to your final destination rather than how good of a deal an airport is willing to offer. I'd estimate as little as 10% of the business aviation market is "stealable".
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 17:05
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The Tees valley is starting to grow again with all sorts of industry so we should be seeing more than just bird shooters.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 22:35
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If Tees Valley is growing whete are these new routes then??
And in response to the Manure comment which showed your level of manners, for your information DTV is now my local airport now that I've moved as technically its the closest.
As with Dsa id like to see a London link and perhaps flybe doing Southampton to cater for the cruise flights.
But every post on here is always generally negative or taking swipes at peel.
With this never ending tale about house building.
Perhaps if you want to see Dtv do better. Then let's have a proper discussion on what cam be done to bring in operators.
For example the likes of links air.
But endless sniping at anybody who dare speak is pretty pointless.
I got one want to see it do better as soon as possible.
It's high time that some kind of shake up of the way the uk uses its airports.
The only good way of looking at it is that their only way is up.
I'm actually surprised that Ryanair hasn't bought an airport yet.
One from which they could base x number of aircraft with no landing n handling fees.
So wouldn't Dtv be tempting.
I bet peel would sell. He coukd buy it cheap . Rebrand it. O leary is clever enough to figure how to make it work.
The question is would he keep the corporates or turn it into the airport version of poundlandd with flights to all the typical bucket and spade routes.
Imagine it the moment a passenger drives up to the barrier and gets the car park ticket o leary would be making money.
Just a thought ....
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Old 22nd Sep 2014, 00:28
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Running an airport is an expensive business and the last thing Mr O'Leary would want to face are the full costs of operating an airport. Far better to get airports to price at marginal cost or below and hey presto you have an airport without the full costs and complexity of operating one. Durham Tees Valley is between a rock and a hard place. Literally.
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Old 22nd Sep 2014, 15:19
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Then let's have a proper discussion on what cam be done to bring in operators.
Agreed that the house building point has been "done", however :-
Unsure as to whether you were simply speaking "tongue in cheek", otherwise you are unfortunately your own worst enemy in fantasising as to a loco purchasing the airport from Peel, let alone one from which it does not, nor has any interest in operating from.
If you are to promote sensible relevant discussion then it would certainly be best to lead by example !
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 06:46
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Got to agree with paarmo on this one. As a comparison we landed at Leeds Bradford, late afternoon yesterday and the experience was awful. Seemed like our Ryanair 737 had parked in Wetherby judging by the walk we had to the terminal. Immigration seemed overwhelmed with very long lines The whole place needs a good clean with rubbish and fag ends everywhere. And it took exactly 1 hour from engines off to being picked up by the waiting Sentinal (Off Airport Parking) driver who do offer an excellent service which far outweighs the overall airport experience that this grotty airport offers. And yet it's bursting at the seems.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 08:53
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Mike why haven't you posted a comment on the LBA forum?
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 09:27
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Better to have an airport that is bursting at the seams with 70+ destinations and a future than an airport that is empty with 2+ destinations.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:06
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Even better one that makes money and is not in debt.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:29
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Very true. But perhaps one still has a possible future as an airport and the other maybe as a housing estate..
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:31
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I can't imagine Leeds becoming a housing estate
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:47
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Re N707ZS post about debt.

Was Teesside Airport in any debt before Peel was gifted the whole place for 500k?

The land by Peels own accounts is now valued at 30m without houses on it.

If the airport and council owners did have any debt on the place, how much did it amount to?

There was a duty free shop and other retailers there when holiday flights operated under the councils ownership, so jobs were also there, but look at it now.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 15:15
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It was getting in the way at the weekend when most stands were full, stuck there on stand 9 for over 12 months minus one engine. Another story that no one seems to know the answer to.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 17:13
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Durham Tees Valley Airport must focus on its Amsterdam routes if it is to survive, councillors are told (From The Northern Echo)

Nothing new here, but "eggs" and "baskets" springs to mind!
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 17:43
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Sustainable profitability is what is important. I think AMS/ABZ are vital for survival. Let's not dilute numbers with flights to another hub. And please, don't anyone mention a London link!
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 17:58
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councillors will work to develop a series of recommendations for Peel Holdings to take into account in future
Yes you wouldn't want to be too pushy
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