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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 08:57
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More great news fior BHX.

Air Blue start A340 flighs to Lahore and Islamabad from 28th Sept

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You wait years for a new long haul route and then two come along once! Great news; although it would have been good to see them launch Karachi. But staying positive and really good to see a new airline and new destination plus BHX's first scheduled A340 flight!
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For anyone in the know - does the A340 have payload restrictions at BHX? Will it be able to operate with a normal load? Is this the reason BHX hasn't seen an A340 before?
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And can you turn an A343 around in 65 mins?
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For anyone in the know - does the A340 have payload restrictions at BHX? Will it be able to operate with a normal load? Is this the reason BHX hasn't seen an A340 before?
Not sure about payload restrictions but come Spring at least that won't be an issue; as I understand it only the A346 can't operate at BHX; the longer wheel base makes it impossible to turn at certain points along the taxiway but whether this has changed I don't know.

As for BHX not seeing the A340 before - with the exception of diverts and the Saudi VIP jet - this is more likely just down to the fact that no airlines operating from BHX have the A340 in their fleet, with the exception of EK whose A340's are fitted with first class.

At one point Mahan Air were in the process of leasing an A340 from Hifly to operate BHX and KUL flights but nothing ever came of it. Even Hellenic made rumblings about re-starting with the ex-Olympic A340s.

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It looks to be a 2x weekly Birmingham-Islamabad-Lahore.

Looks like long-haul is finally materialising at BHX. This means we may well see Airblue, PIA, Air India and Emirates on the ground at the same time on a Saturday.

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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 10:28
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Air Blue

Good news about Air Blue but how will that affect PIA? Can the route sustain both? Hmmm I fear not but hope to be proven wrong.
I'd've much preferred an AA restart to ORD instead or another destination not in direct competition with another route. Beggars can't be chooses I suppose.

Allegedly BHX will be A340-600 compliant after the runway resurfacing is completed. During that time a couple of taxiway corners will be widened.

Hats off to the hat eating posters on here who graciously accepted defeat and did not run away to hide. Respect!
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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 11:05
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NOC still not on winter timetable.
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Are any stands capable A340-600 as that is a major problem also turning on to stands and push back

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Air Blue

There was a leak on Twitter last year about this, although at the time Air Blue denied any plans to launch a BHX route. I'm very glad it has finally come to fruition. However the impacts on PK and to a lesser extent EK will be interesting. They all seem to co-exist at MAN. I think BHX has the Midlands demand for the Indian sub continent market sown up for now? Next stop China??

Seeing as things seem to be on a roll, would now love to see TOM add some long haul capacity and destinations, VS do a seasonal Orlando and some of those city gaps filled in Europe - MAD, PRG, ATH, WAW....

Air Blue Schedule:

Sat PA226 arr BHX 21.25 PA 227 dep 23.30

Wed PA226 arr BHX 20.15 PA227 dep 21.25 - from the end of October this flight departs at 22.30

Looks like the LHE flight according to website is a change of planes at ISB, as there are two different flight numbers presented on booking screen, although through fares are bookable.
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How will PIA react to the news? They could open up a route to Karachi as that isn't being served by Airblue as of yet.
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Yes, the large 'center' stands are compatable with the A346. In fact one of the 50's stands has had a stop mark for the A346 for a few years now.
Would be curious to know if there's any weight/performance restrictions off the existing runway length to ISB for the A343? Obviously it'll only be for a short time until the extension is complete.
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There was a leak on Twitter last year about this, although at the time Air Blue denied any plans to launch a BHX route. I'm very glad it has finally come to fruition. However the impacts on PK and to a lesser extent EK will be interesting. They all seem to co-exist at MAN. I think BHX has the Midlands demand for the Indian sub continent market sown up for now? Next stop China??
Good to see a rumour coming true for a change, although I must admit I’d completely forgotten about that one. With the arrival of the 787 at BHX and with several Chinese carriers receiving them perhaps BHX-China is a slightly more viable prospect now. I’m still edging my bets that they have something up their sleeve for the runway opening.
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Arann/Air Blue

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Amazing, it is as I remember except I missed the strike/scrape, which considering how close I was is a little bit disappointing (age no doubt ).

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A post on another forum mentions a tech stop in Istanbul is listed in one system, which there would be no need on the westbound to BHX unless it was a 319/320.

A smaller aircraft might be wise to start with, that is how the Manchester service operated for a good few years although of course there was little choice and it was upgraded when the 340 arrived in the fleet.

Over 12 months I believe that the PIA averages less than 80% so something might have to give. However PIA still stick with the Thursday 77W (393 seats) and I am sure they wouldn't do that unless it was required most of the time.

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NOC still not on winter timetable
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Birmingham (ends 26 October 2013

Hopefully they can get a new carrier as Aer Lingus regional never really got off to a good start as it was late and going teck a bit often
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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 21:55
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Airblue

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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 22:12
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About 2 weeks ago SNN-BHX was re-timed on Tue,Fri,Sun for winter in such a way to allow an NOC w flight, but still nothing on sale. Really can't understand the delay
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Air Kashmir

Taken from another site.

Air Kashmir Flights Starting From Glasgow Manchester & Birmingham

Website found.

AIR KASHMIR
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Old 3rd Aug 2013, 07:01
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I wouldn't take too much notice of that article (See MAN thread) No way is anyone or any company going to make money flying a knackered old 747-300 (unless it's freight only) in this day and age. Most of these 747's are in the desert being broken up for scrap.

We've heard all this sort of thing before with various entrepreneurs talking about starting an airline.
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I wonder if the cabin crew will be trained for a whip round for the fuel bill?
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