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Old 9th Jan 2017, 11:27
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Have added 2 x weekly A319 to Larnaca on Wed & Sat (a 11:55/d 12:55)

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New weekly charter to Preveza on Sun (a 18:40/d 11:05)
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 16:46
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Have added 2 x weekly A319 to Larnaca on Wed & Sat (a 11:55/d 12:55)

Is that just a continuation of the current schedule albeit different times?
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 11:24
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11,639,738 passengers travelled through the airport over the course of 2016, an increase of 14.2%

https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/...#5874baab6579a
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 11:27
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Have added 2 x weekly A319 to Larnaca on Wed & Sat (a 11:55/d 12:55)

Is that just a continuation of the current schedule albeit different times?
Yes, some thought it was not going to continue into the summer, but good to see it will carry on
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 14:09
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BHX December passengers up an amazing 23.7% 2017 should be even busier.
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 22:11
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Chinese flights

http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/business-news/birmingham-airport-talks-over-new-12451779
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 08:01
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Birmingham Airport talks over new China flights - Birmingham Post

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Old 14th Jan 2017, 10:58
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This will cheer you up...not...

http://www.traveldailymedia.com/2456...in-birmingham/
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 11:38
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Just underlines how much demand there is from Gtr Birmingham for flights to China.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 13:46
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Just underlines how much demand there is from Gtr Birmingham for flights to China.
When talking of Scheduled Long Haul you must view a much larger market than the 7 boroughs.

In planning the airlines consider many things including proximity of alternate Hubs and their accessibility.

When the operators of Birmingham Airport begin to square and identify the relevant markets and catchment is when they might begin to draw the attention of appropriate business.

Chasing a China connection worse seemingly thinking an irregular tourist service might suffice is imho a recipe for failure.

Think what is the regional demand (both ways) - does it differ from a few tourists going to Stratford, Bicester Village and onto the metropolis

Is the demand driven by boxes or organic blobs.

Is there much in the way of VFR to fill the back of the bus.

Etc.....

Then you have to look at the arbitrary and legislative barriers being imposed by state agencies.

Right now there remain some pretty high hurdles to climb particularly in Sino-UK aviation.

Whilst the number of available slot pairs have been increased by both sides, the effects on the ground appear to have stalled quite significantly.

BA have actually pulled a China service, Tianjin have had their application for additional flights declined !

Access/slot restrictions mean any further LHR flight awards may be difficult and Hainan appear to be considering adding a tag on the Manchester service with a slight frequency increase but possible drop in overall capacity on the Man- PEK sector.

Air China are engaged in domestic territorial warfare with China Eastern and local government agencies in Shanghai specifically around the Central Government One Airline One route policies.

Central government preferred operator for high yield premier routes is Air China whilst China Eastern has been allowed to build a significant regional network out of Shanghai in support of the local development agencies.

Current standoff Air China has been award a number of international routes from Shanghai including one to the UK and another to Spain but can't get local slots

Compound all this with the difficulty (As opposed to ease of a Schegan VISA) for the middle class Chinese tourist outside of Beijing in getting a UK tourist VISA, whilst the student VISA processes become even more arduously scrutinised and its little wonder Paris gets more Chinese visitors than the whole of the UK today is it.

Summarisation perhaps Birmingham Airport from an economic perspective would be better looking a little more widely than focusing on a Chinese link at the moment.

Think Air India and the proposed return of the Toronto tag - That would give the airport a real advantage over Manchester in two important markets when the UK leave the EU.

Right now Manchester has just one weekly winter quasi charter service to Canada and continues to struggle in winning any scheduled direct connections to India what so ever.

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Old 14th Jan 2017, 15:49
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An interesting and informative post rutankrd.Many thanks.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 15:58
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rutankrd

Indeed very interesting, and the point regarding visas is especially well made, and despite government rhetoric a few months ago isn't likely to get better anytime soon.

However, where I differ is that BHX is that much closer to London than Manchester, so, especially for leisure passengers, BHX is a viable option for Chinese operators as an entry point to service Stratford, the Cotswolds, Bicester Outlet and the honeypot that is London.

Whether BHX actually gets a Chinese service, well my glass is half empty on that one, and I too think that expansion of the AI offer may prove more lucrative, given the demographics of the Midlands, and also the large Punjabi population in and around Toronto.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 23:54
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November Pax

DUBLIN 81,490 up 6.77 %
AMSTERDAM 51,159 up 9.38 %
DUBAI 50,596 down-4.34 %
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 33,281 up 33.70 %
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 32,534 up 4.92 %
EDINBURGH 24,271 0.00 %
BELFAST CITY 23,017 up 12.00 %
DUSSELDORF 22,902 up 14.94 %
ALICANTE 21,979 up 5.92 %
MALAGA 21,503 up 8.35 %
BELFAST INT 21,343 up 3.00 %
GLASGOW 21,128up 8.00 %
FRANKFURT MAIN 19,537 down -0.24 %
ARRECIFE 18,110 down -2.08 %
BARCELONA 16,240 down -0.12 %
MUNICH 14,317 down -1.20 %
FUERTEVENTURA 12,055 up 13.48 %
BRUSSELS 11,666 down -2.07 %
ABERDEEN 10,536 up 22.00 %
DOHA HAMAD 10,243 0.00 %
LAS PALMAS 9,714 up 18.84 %
MADRID 8,838 up 350.23 %
FARO 8,789 up 5.32 %
ISTANBUL 8,615 down -19.99 %
COPENHAGEN 8,483 down -2.86 %
DELHI 7,028down -42.25 %
ZURICH 6,583 down -7.27 %
MILAN (MALPENSA) 6,556 down -11.69 %
ISLAMABAD 6,551 up 11.28 %
BERLIN (TEGEL) 6,532 up 47.62 %
AMRITSAR 6,458 0.00 %
STUTTGART 6,328 up 8.36 %
BRIDGETOWN 6,264 up 7.76 %
CORK 6,191 up 8.33 %
SOFIA 5,925 0.00 %
CANCUN 4,937 down -1.87 %
NEW YORK (JF KENNEDY) 4,779 up 4.80 %
NEW YORK (NEWARK) 4,741 down -35.08 %
BRATISLAVA 4,671 up 21.96 %
MALTA 4,464 up 46.31 %
BYDGOSZCZ 4,298 up 2.04 %
WARSAW (CHOPIN) 3,936 up 55.08 %
ROME (FIUMICINO) 3,889 down -8.86 %
PALMA DE MALLORCA 3,883 up 9.60 %
INVERNESS 3,556 up 16.00 %
BUDAPEST 3,507 up 62.51 %
FUNCHAL 3,468 down -14.45 %
KEFLAVIK 3,445 up 23.17 %
PRAGUE 3,322 0.00 %
LISBON 3,282 0.00 %
HANOVER 3,266 down -36.11 %
LYON 3,264 down -4.76 %
GDANSK 3,261 up 7.55 %
PAPHOS 3,255 up 4.66 %
KRAKOW 3,231 Up 1.25 %
ILHA DO SAL C.VERDE 3,152 up 90.80 %
MURCIA SAN JAVIER 3,143 up 1064.07 %
PUNTA CANA 3,120 0.00 %
WARSAW (MODLIN MASOVIA) 3,1110.00 %
VERONA VILLAFRANCA 2,979 0.00 %
MONTEGO BAY 2,972 up 38.88 %
ROTTERDAM 2,944 0.00 %
JERSEY 2,848 Down -10.00 %
ISLE OF MAN 2,800 up 5.00 %
KATOWICE 2,788 down -11.94 %
ASHKHABAD 2,730 down -25.51 %
BANJUL 2,725 up 109.13 %
SHANNON 2,696 up 7.84 %
VILNIUS 2,695 0.00 %
GUERNSEY 2,681 down -13.00 %
BUCHAREST (OTOPENI) 2,642 0.00 %
LARNACA 2,610 down -36.60 %
TOULOUSE (BLAGNAC) 2,359 0.00 %
WROCLAW 2,285 0.00 %
POZNAN 2,229 0.00 %
GIBRALTAR 2,117 down -40.92 %
BOA VISTA (RABIL) 2,044 up 35.99 %
IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 1,915 0.00 %
LUXEMBOURG 1,875 0.00 %
HURGHADA 1,659 Up 13.55 %
MARRAKESH 1,473 up 86.93 %
HAMBURG 1,442 down -23.58 %
NANTES 1,021 up 3984.00 %
PADERBORN 1,003 down -35.79 %
VENICE 676 up 271.43 %
DALAMAN 676 up 220.38 %
CORFU 199 0.00 %
IBIZA 188 0.00 %
MUNSTER-OSNABRUCK 151 0.00 %
ALMERIA 135 0.00 %
OSTEND 130 0.00 %
NEWCASTLE 55 down -94.00 %
SOUTHAMPTON 55 0.00 %
PARIS (LE BOURGET) 45 0.00 %
MILAN (LINATE) 25 0.00 %

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Old 14th Jan 2017, 23:57
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December Pax - highlights

Dublin 80,281 up 13.5%

Dubai 69,485 up 14.4%

Amsterdam 50,376 up 11.%

Tenerife 35,446 up 37.2%

Dusseldorf 22,787 up 27.95%

Delhi / Amritsar 13,479

Malaga 20,302 up 28.1%

Barcelona 16,503 up 20.7%

Doha 12,408

Delhi / Amritsat 13,479

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Old 15th Jan 2017, 23:28
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United & Swiss

United - Newark

Back to daily for the whole of summer rather than just mid-May to Mid - September. EDI also getting small United increases as well.

Swiss

Some booking engines showing Swiss Airbus flights on a regular basis from September on some days. Although the published new CS300 routes did not include BHX (LHR-GVA the only UK route) I wonder if BHX will get them as some show the operating aircraft as A319's yet some if not all are being replaced by the CS300. Wednesday, Friday and Saturday are the main days for the 319/320 in October.

STATS

December are stunning and November not too shabby. You can see why the rumours of Air India increasing and I realise the Indian press can be somewhat unrealistically enthusiastic at times and it is also peak season, they are very good/promising.

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Old 15th Jan 2017, 23:42
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I always feel that Swiss could operate any aircraft any day as they seem to change so often
Up hear in Manchester we seem to of had everything and there seems no pattern so I just believe
it when I see it so I don`t see BHX being any different, makes it interesting I guess
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 12:13
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Comformation of the new base fr BMIR at BHX. More Graz flights too.
https://www.flybmi.com/press-release...ee-new-routes/
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 14:58
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With the greatest of respect for one of the best posters on PPRuNe (ie you)....

STATS
December are stunning and November not too shabby. You can see why the rumours of Air India increasing
The passenger numbers posted by BHX5DME just above, show Delhi with a whopping 42.25% reduction over the same month last year.
Air India may or may not add services for whatever reasons south Asian airlines employ but extra demand is unlikely to be one of them.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 16:42
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The passenger numbers posted by BHX5DME just above, show Delhi with a whopping 42.25% reduction over the same month last year.
I wondered this to but I seem to recall previously that the Delhi and Amritsar figures all being added together so perhaps that explains the anomaly if indeed it is one?
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 16:49
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DELHI 7,028down -42.25 %
AMRITSAR 6,458 0.00 %

=13,486 IN TOTAL
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