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Ignore him Cumbrianman, you won't win. Don't know what the poodle comment refers to, whether it was an insult or just a cultural reference I've missed
It doesn't surprise me he's 'worked' at SEN. He's 'worked' at every other UK airport. He 'worked' in ATC the other day, today it's scheduling. Serial fantasist.
I wish the mods would just ban him for good. I hoped they would do that after the homophobic remarks, but never mind.
I think we need to get back to SEN news to avoid a thread shutdown.
It doesn't surprise me he's 'worked' at SEN. He's 'worked' at every other UK airport. He 'worked' in ATC the other day, today it's scheduling. Serial fantasist.
I wish the mods would just ban him for good. I hoped they would do that after the homophobic remarks, but never mind.
I think we need to get back to SEN news to avoid a thread shutdown.
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Ignore him Cumbrianman, you won't win. Don't know what the poodle comment refers to, whether it was an insult or just a cultural reference I've missed
It doesn't surprise me he's 'worked' at SEN. He's 'worked' at every other UK airport. He 'worked' in ATC the other day, today it's scheduling. Serial fantasist.
I wish the mods would just ban him for good. I hoped they would do that after the homophobic remarks, but never mind.
I think we need to get back to SEN news to avoid a thread shutdown.
It doesn't surprise me he's 'worked' at SEN. He's 'worked' at every other UK airport. He 'worked' in ATC the other day, today it's scheduling. Serial fantasist.
I wish the mods would just ban him for good. I hoped they would do that after the homophobic remarks, but never mind.
I think we need to get back to SEN news to avoid a thread shutdown.
RAF Trade Group 9 (Air Traffic Control) includes other specialties such as Operations and Navigation ... to hell with it, I was going to take the time to educate you but you're just a kid who knows Jack Sh1t mouthing off from behind his keyboard, you want me to educate you then make an appointment
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Train car park to 'plane
I have flown from SEN and the previous post reminded me to share a little time and money saving tip.
For SEN locals park at the Rochford train station car park. The 2 minute train journey is well worth the savings on the SEN car park price. For those coming from further afield, park at Rayleigh train station car park. The 10 min train journey is quicker than the equivalent Rayleigh Weir to Southend Airport car journey (especially so in the morning rush hour when the trains are every 10 mins and the traffic jams into Southend are pretty bad). The money savings are around 70% of the airport parking fees.
For SEN locals park at the Rochford train station car park. The 2 minute train journey is well worth the savings on the SEN car park price. For those coming from further afield, park at Rayleigh train station car park. The 10 min train journey is quicker than the equivalent Rayleigh Weir to Southend Airport car journey (especially so in the morning rush hour when the trains are every 10 mins and the traffic jams into Southend are pretty bad). The money savings are around 70% of the airport parking fees.
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Who did you work for at SEN and when? I can't recall ever bumping into anyone there quite like you.
Add 'and for how long' - might be relevant.
P.S. Keep playing with the toy Vulcan, I worked with Vulcans when they were in active service.
ers in my day. Has the PC age really gone this far?
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Phileas, it would appear that your obviously long and all encompassing career in
Aviation, both civil and military has not taught you tolerance or wisdom.
May I suggest you please stop your bitter comments before the mods take action and either shut down the SEN thread or ban you.
Now as a SEN employee in the 60's 70's and 80's working in Cargo, Air Traffic, Ops and Management I feel qualified to request we get back to civil discourse about SEN. Thank you.
Aviation, both civil and military has not taught you tolerance or wisdom.
May I suggest you please stop your bitter comments before the mods take action and either shut down the SEN thread or ban you.
Now as a SEN employee in the 60's 70's and 80's working in Cargo, Air Traffic, Ops and Management I feel qualified to request we get back to civil discourse about SEN. Thank you.
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Planespeaking,
I fear you're too late ... the idiots have taken over the asylum and degenerated this thread to sh1t
All I offered was sound objection to such a route as Carlisle-Southend-On-Sea but, alike the Cardiff thread, this Southend thread had become a haven for spotters that belong in "Spotters Corner" next door.
Will Southend ever get a thread that isn't shut down all the whilst it is infested with spotters?
I fear you're too late ... the idiots have taken over the asylum and degenerated this thread to sh1t
All I offered was sound objection to such a route as Carlisle-Southend-On-Sea but, alike the Cardiff thread, this Southend thread had become a haven for spotters that belong in "Spotters Corner" next door.
Will Southend ever get a thread that isn't shut down all the whilst it is infested with spotters?
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Regrettably Phileas you are revealing your ignorance of SEN.
During the many lean years at SEN is was the the support, enthusiasm and undying belief in the airport's future of the spotters that kept the flame alive.
Don't forget if it wasn't for 'spotters' in the 1930's who went on to train as pilots in the 1940's you may not be here to post your comments.
I am afraid the use of the words 'infested with spotters' in your post speaks volumes about you.
Very sad.
During the many lean years at SEN is was the the support, enthusiasm and undying belief in the airport's future of the spotters that kept the flame alive.
Don't forget if it wasn't for 'spotters' in the 1930's who went on to train as pilots in the 1940's you may not be here to post your comments.
I am afraid the use of the words 'infested with spotters' in your post speaks volumes about you.
Very sad.
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I know I am new on this forum and perhaps should keep out of this, but if everyone totally ignores him/his posts he will eventually get tired of talking to himself. I think that would be the best way to deal with this to avoid being shut down. Don't respond to him.
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The conclusion would then be that the whole Aer Arran/Carlisle Airport venture is simply a side show to get the Freight Distribution Centre up and running.
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Well apparently Phileas worked at Norwich and then showed such poor knowledge of the airport, so yes a clear fantasist.
But SEN Observer is correct just ignore him and his posts and then he will go away!
So please everyone lets stop, ignore Phileas and get back to some good discussions about SEN!
But SEN Observer is correct just ignore him and his posts and then he will go away!
So please everyone lets stop, ignore Phileas and get back to some good discussions about SEN!
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I'm backing Phileas on this one. He HAS been, seen and got the T-Shirts.
Certainly not a serial Fantasist or bulls£@tter.
I know him personally.
I , myself am the "plane spotter" , I know what I am talking about through reading books. Wish I'd got the T-Shirt as my knowledge in relation to real life with airlines, ATC etc is negligible. Then I would KNOW what I'm talking about.
Certainly not a serial Fantasist or bulls£@tter.
I know him personally.
I , myself am the "plane spotter" , I know what I am talking about through reading books. Wish I'd got the T-Shirt as my knowledge in relation to real life with airlines, ATC etc is negligible. Then I would KNOW what I'm talking about.
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Yes, you're right and I for one will take your advice.
I always like to engage in debate as there is often more than one valid viewpoint but I guess sometimes 'debate' isn't actually what some people are looking for.
Yes, you're right and I for one will take your advice.
I always like to engage in debate as there is often more than one valid viewpoint but I guess sometimes 'debate' isn't actually what some people are looking for.
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Moderator suggestion
There has been a lot said recently about banning certain members from this forum. As a moderator here, I suggest that you can do this yourselves.
If you are really fed up with a member you can block him, so you will not see his mails.
Log in, and at the top left you will see "User CP".
Go to "Settings and Options"
Select "Edit ignore list"
Type in the name of the person.
Click OK.
That's it. You can always release a person again if you are bored.
If you are really fed up with a member you can block him, so you will not see his mails.
Log in, and at the top left you will see "User CP".
Go to "Settings and Options"
Select "Edit ignore list"
Type in the name of the person.
Click OK.
That's it. You can always release a person again if you are bored.
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To set the record straight
As an example in the MME thread a LON, even SEN, route has been discussed and the conscientious of opinion is that in this day and age the trains have become too fast whilst APD is impacting upon domestic air travel, and that has been discussed without any "fisticuffs".
Last evening (my time) just as things were "kicking off", in this thread, I made a somewhat lighthearted criticism of public transport, namely trains, at STN, it's as if it passed unnoticed and certainly without any fisticuffs.
Previously, in the Carlisle thread members, including myself, have discussed points that a SEN route would be unfeasible because the train from Carlisle to London/Euston takes just some 3.5 hours as opposed to some 3+ hours by air and then by train and combined with APD the ATR72 is too large an aircraft for such a route, this was discussed soundly and maturely in the Carlisle thread and without any "fisticuffs".
So last evening (my time) I pretty much repeated what has already been uttered in such threads as MME and CAX and all hell broke loose and the only difference being that this time it was being discussed in the SEN thread.
2hrs 35mins Carlisle check-in to alighting a train at a LON terminus is NEVER likely to work. If check-in closes at STD -30 then one needs to be there at STD-35 to STD -60, let's say for scheduling purposes STD -45. A train a quoted every 10 or 20 minutes from SEN so for scheduling purposes let's say a train every 15 minutes and an average waiting time for the train of 7.5 minutes.
So 45 minutes check-in, 60 minutes CAX/SEN, 15 minutes to train, 7.5 minutes waiting time for train then 53 minutes to London/Liverpool Street ... total, for the sake of half a minute, 3 hours and a hourly train direct from Carlisle to London/Euston seems to average a schedule of some 3hrs 28 minutes and without APD.
This is the point that has been made previously in the Carlisle thread and without any "jumping down throats", I was merely trying to reiterate this point last evening (my time) but for some reason all hell broke loose!
Last evening (my time) just as things were "kicking off", in this thread, I made a somewhat lighthearted criticism of public transport, namely trains, at STN, it's as if it passed unnoticed and certainly without any fisticuffs.
Previously, in the Carlisle thread members, including myself, have discussed points that a SEN route would be unfeasible because the train from Carlisle to London/Euston takes just some 3.5 hours as opposed to some 3+ hours by air and then by train and combined with APD the ATR72 is too large an aircraft for such a route, this was discussed soundly and maturely in the Carlisle thread and without any "fisticuffs".
So last evening (my time) I pretty much repeated what has already been uttered in such threads as MME and CAX and all hell broke loose and the only difference being that this time it was being discussed in the SEN thread.
2hrs 35mins Carlisle check-in to alighting a train at a LON terminus is NEVER likely to work. If check-in closes at STD -30 then one needs to be there at STD-35 to STD -60, let's say for scheduling purposes STD -45. A train a quoted every 10 or 20 minutes from SEN so for scheduling purposes let's say a train every 15 minutes and an average waiting time for the train of 7.5 minutes.
So 45 minutes check-in, 60 minutes CAX/SEN, 15 minutes to train, 7.5 minutes waiting time for train then 53 minutes to London/Liverpool Street ... total, for the sake of half a minute, 3 hours and a hourly train direct from Carlisle to London/Euston seems to average a schedule of some 3hrs 28 minutes and without APD.
This is the point that has been made previously in the Carlisle thread and without any "jumping down throats", I was merely trying to reiterate this point last evening (my time) but for some reason all hell broke loose!
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So last evening (my time) I pretty much repeated what has already been uttered in such threads as MME and CAX and all hell broke loose and the only difference being that this time it was being discussed in the SEN thread.
There is something unique about this thread in that if someone asks too many questions or points out a fact or even has an opinion that is not 100% pro Southend then they become a hate figure from the same immature people time and time again.
No doubt the mod reads all these comments and at some point will just close this thread down again. I think it is inevitable, it is going to happen. I try to moderate all my own posts on this thread so I won't get dragged down in the fall out that is going to happen by not criticizing individuals and by keeping my comments fairly neutral but this is a dangerous place to be.
Getting back to trains V planes. Luton has a very successful Luton-Paris service despite its rail line going direct to St Pancras and its hourly Eurostar service, which takes just over 2 hours city centre to city centre. I think it might have something to do with ticket prices often being below the rail price so maybe a Southend to the Scottish borders could work except that not many people live in that part of the world to sustain an air service
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You and I have had our quite strong disagreements over the years but I don't think we ever went in for personal abuse and I hope we retain an element of mutual respect. Criticism is fine and only to be expected, as you say, but people don't become "hate figures" just through criticising the views of others.
You and I have had our quite strong disagreements over the years but I don't think we ever went in for personal abuse and I hope we retain an element of mutual respect. Criticism is fine and only to be expected, as you say, but people don't become "hate figures" just through criticising the views of others.