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Easyjet won't be able to move too many more aircraft over to SEN, it's just not big enough even with its greatly expanded terminal opening in December. I'd be surprised to see more than 5 EZY's based at SEN by summer 2014 so at least that number should remain at STN.
If Easyjet were to base 6 (or even 7) aircraft at Southend year round, the airport would be getting rather close to hitting the 2 million passengers per year mark, at which point various constraints loom large. Are Stobart ready for such a 'all eggs in one basket' business model ?
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Easyjet will have restrictions imposed on them at Southend,
Night Flight Controls (2300hrs – 0630hrs)
• No Passenger Flights to take off or land between 2300 and 0630 unless they are Delayed or Diverted, but up to 90 Passenger Flights per month may be scheduled to land during the shoulder period of 2300 and 2330hrs
With only an average of 3 flights a night allowed between 23:00 and 23:30 and nothing after that holiday flights arriving in the early hours won't be happening at Southend.
Night Flight Controls (2300hrs – 0630hrs)
• No Passenger Flights to take off or land between 2300 and 0630 unless they are Delayed or Diverted, but up to 90 Passenger Flights per month may be scheduled to land during the shoulder period of 2300 and 2330hrs
With only an average of 3 flights a night allowed between 23:00 and 23:30 and nothing after that holiday flights arriving in the early hours won't be happening at Southend.
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Exactly. Under current conditions SEN won't grow above 2 million pax annually, but that's always been in Stobart's business model so hopefully they are happy with it. Maybe another airline would pay higher fees than EZY, so perhaps Stobart would like to attract others - otherwise why would they bother going to Routes Europe in May?
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Further to Lord Gumboils previous post - and at the risk of sounding like a complete anorak - YES - the service was miles better when it was operated by British Rail - Eastern Region - but I think that the costs must have been enormous (nothing necessarily wrong with that given the vital nature of public transport).
We used to have deprtures from Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria at 0022, 0122, 0323, and 0420 every morning before the start of the "normal" daily service. From Southend Victoria - there were services to Liverpool Street at 2335, 0217, and 0410 (and all these were EVERY night). In addition - even small stations en route like Hockley had staff (one!!) on site 24 hours per day. And this was in the 1970s - not some dinosaur age!!
So - there would appear to be absolutely no reason why this line could not return to 24 hour operation - if the current owners / franchisees so desired. BUT - obviously - it all comes down to money against service and I doubt we will ever see this again.
But - Network Rail / Greater Anglia ( or rather Abellio) et al - British Rail did it decades ago - if you want to bring this back - what is stopping you?
We used to have deprtures from Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria at 0022, 0122, 0323, and 0420 every morning before the start of the "normal" daily service. From Southend Victoria - there were services to Liverpool Street at 2335, 0217, and 0410 (and all these were EVERY night). In addition - even small stations en route like Hockley had staff (one!!) on site 24 hours per day. And this was in the 1970s - not some dinosaur age!!
So - there would appear to be absolutely no reason why this line could not return to 24 hour operation - if the current owners / franchisees so desired. BUT - obviously - it all comes down to money against service and I doubt we will ever see this again.
But - Network Rail / Greater Anglia ( or rather Abellio) et al - British Rail did it decades ago - if you want to bring this back - what is stopping you?
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Don't forget Virgin's rock 'n' roll names on their aircraft: Dancing Queen, Uptown Girl, Jersey Girl, Tubular Belle, Virginia Plain, Ruby Tuesday etc.......
I preferred the Carvairs when they were named after bridges.....
I preferred the Carvairs when they were named after bridges.....
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Easyjet won't be able to move too many more aircraft over to SEN, it's just
not big enough even with its greatly expanded terminal opening in December.
This could work well within the current schedule, i.e. early inbounds from other bases when the based fleet are on outbound sectors, could work quite well.
If easyJet wanted to base more aircraft, could say another 2 be parked at remote stands and start their day slightly later than the first wave of flights by easyJet when the space become available at the terminal, though this may be considered less than effective...
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It will be interesting to see what happens when Southend starts to edge close to 2 million passengers. I suspect it will be no different than London City and most other airports, the goal post will be moved.
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There will be a total of ten close-in stands in front of the extended terminal when it is completed in January 2014(?). There are currently five stands in front of the terminal and the other five are now complete and available to serve the extension to the terminal upon its completion.
There will be a total of ten close-in stands in front of the extended terminal when it is completed in January 2014(?). There are currently five stands in front of the terminal and the other five are now complete and available to serve the extension to the terminal upon its completion.
The issue of 757 commercial operations from SEN was discussed recently on the Blackpool thread. I commented that my understanding was that a Code D aircraft such as the 757 was likely to need CAA approval to operate revenue flights from a Code 3C airport. I see that the SEN website now has a revised page of operational information, and under the heading of Maximum Aircraft Size is the following statement:
London Southend can accommodate passenger aircraft including up to Boeing 757 size,including most of the Airbus A320 and B737 families of aircraft, regional jets such as British Aerospace RJ-100 and Embraer 195 families. Operators must satisfy themselves that the weights and sector lengths that they operate their aircraft to, are at all times suitable. Wide-body passenger flights are not possible from London Southend.
The page it replaced, which was well out of date, only referred to 757 operations in the context of maintenance purposes. Hopefully this means that SEN now has CAA approval for 757 revenue operations, always assuming they had identified the need for it in the first place
London Southend can accommodate passenger aircraft including up to Boeing 757 size,including most of the Airbus A320 and B737 families of aircraft, regional jets such as British Aerospace RJ-100 and Embraer 195 families. Operators must satisfy themselves that the weights and sector lengths that they operate their aircraft to, are at all times suitable. Wide-body passenger flights are not possible from London Southend.
The page it replaced, which was well out of date, only referred to 757 operations in the context of maintenance purposes. Hopefully this means that SEN now has CAA approval for 757 revenue operations, always assuming they had identified the need for it in the first place