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davidjohnson6
I agree with you regarding the problem for a SEN-based aircraft and they certainly need to do something as soon as possible about the lack of early trains.
That problem doesn't arise to the same extent though if the aircraft is mainland Europe based (note that the SEN-DUB changes to DUB-SEN next month as an example of getting round that shortcoming), and that has been the intention with the airports/operators that I've recently been involved with on possible SEN routes.
Barling Magna
I answered your original question "second and third tier routes which would be viable from SEN". Your suggestions are all primary destinations, as were those offered by PF, and there's no reason why EZY shouldn't perhaps show an interest in some of them as they might support an A319. My thoughts were on those thin routes which might supplement the EZY traffic; something which I think it is important for SEN to try to attract.
I agree with you regarding the problem for a SEN-based aircraft and they certainly need to do something as soon as possible about the lack of early trains.
That problem doesn't arise to the same extent though if the aircraft is mainland Europe based (note that the SEN-DUB changes to DUB-SEN next month as an example of getting round that shortcoming), and that has been the intention with the airports/operators that I've recently been involved with on possible SEN routes.
Barling Magna
I answered your original question "second and third tier routes which would be viable from SEN". Your suggestions are all primary destinations, as were those offered by PF, and there's no reason why EZY shouldn't perhaps show an interest in some of them as they might support an A319. My thoughts were on those thin routes which might supplement the EZY traffic; something which I think it is important for SEN to try to attract.
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The first train from London arrives at 0630 while the last train departs at 2300. This means any departure before about 0800 or arrival before about 2130 has to survive purely on Essex residents.
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Fair point, Expressflight. I was responding to Phileas' wind up......
Some 2nd and 3rd tier destinations could include Billund, Bergen, Lyon, Maastricht, Bordeaux, Hanover, Gothenburg, Salzburg.......
Some 2nd and 3rd tier destinations could include Billund, Bergen, Lyon, Maastricht, Bordeaux, Hanover, Gothenburg, Salzburg.......
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Would be good if Maastricht Airlines planned route from SEN to Maastricht in 2014 comes to anything. Their first flights start in less than a weeks time (25th March), and depending on how successful their launch is, will probably determine if the network expansion is likely to go ahead.
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Only 17 passengers booked on this mornings Belfast service. Room to spare even if Easyjet was using a Bristol 170. Clearly it is still early days and today was midweek in March but I would be expecting much high numbers than that. Does anyone have a monthy breakdown of loads per route?
Edit: Actually has this Belfast service been running almost a year now? If it has these figures are quite bad
Edit: Actually has this Belfast service been running almost a year now? If it has these figures are quite bad
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The difficulty with the Belfast service is getting to SEN to the 7.15 flight. As in previous post the first train arrives at 6.30, and though SEN is an easy airport to pass through it is tight if EZY want you at the gate 40 minutes before the flight.
It is more important that NI pax have the early morning flight from BFS. From May the schedule is being downgrade to daily ex Tuesday
Would be better if late morning and evening flight from SEN
It is more important that NI pax have the early morning flight from BFS. From May the schedule is being downgrade to daily ex Tuesday
Would be better if late morning and evening flight from SEN
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Amsterdam - 11283 (72%)
Belfast - 7438 (48%)
Dublin - 4948 (74%)
Jersey - 3565 (57%)
Alicante - 4407 (94%)
Malaga - 5821 (93%)
Barcelona - 7543 (86%)
Faro - 4378 (88%)
Geneva 2918 (78%)
Venice - 2571 (69%)
Not sure how accurate these stats are; I've copied them from another forum. Apart from BFS and Jersey they look pretty good for February.
Belfast - 7438 (48%)
Dublin - 4948 (74%)
Jersey - 3565 (57%)
Alicante - 4407 (94%)
Malaga - 5821 (93%)
Barcelona - 7543 (86%)
Faro - 4378 (88%)
Geneva 2918 (78%)
Venice - 2571 (69%)
Not sure how accurate these stats are; I've copied them from another forum. Apart from BFS and Jersey they look pretty good for February.
The load factor for SEN-JER seems to actually be 71% for February, assuming they operated the published schedule of MFSaSu throughout the month, and I calculated AMS at 75%. Otherwise I agree with Barling Magna's figures for the other routes. I would suggest that's a pretty good overall performance for February and the VCE load factor is lower due to the fact the service only commenced 8th February, with probably few inbound travellers on the first couple of rotations.
LTNman
Your are quite right is suggesting that the BFS route performs poorly overall. Load factors have been below 60% in all months other than June, July & August as far as I can calculate. The current first arriving train from London isn't a practical proposition for catching the 0715 BFS, but whether any progress is being made in changing that situation I don't know.
LTNman
Your are quite right is suggesting that the BFS route performs poorly overall. Load factors have been below 60% in all months other than June, July & August as far as I can calculate. The current first arriving train from London isn't a practical proposition for catching the 0715 BFS, but whether any progress is being made in changing that situation I don't know.
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It surly can only be a matter of time before the railway extends its hours.
They would look at the cost benefits and the revenue generated from two flights, one a medium TP and the other a 319, will not make the figures add up I'm afraid. The one bright spot on the horizon is that the Greater Anglia franchise is to be re-let in mid 2014. Prospective bidders should be encouraged by the airport management and others to put an earlier train in their franchise bid.
McGoonagall
I go along with all your points apart from the number of flights affected.
An 0600 arrival train would meet the needs of passengers on up to four A319 departures this summer, so the numbers using the service could be considerably greater than you were suggesting.
I go along with all your points apart from the number of flights affected.
An 0600 arrival train would meet the needs of passengers on up to four A319 departures this summer, so the numbers using the service could be considerably greater than you were suggesting.
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That would make it better. Perhaps easyJet could have an arrangement with GA to sell rail tickets on the flights as FCC does with Luton arrivals. It is important to get an earlier service as it can only be a win-win situation for all concerned.
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London Southend Airport is celebrating its busiest 12 months on record.
More than 720,000 passengers used the airport in the year to the end of February 2013, beating the previous record of 692,000 travellers, back in 1967 when it was the UK’s third busiest airport.
The airport’s managing director, Alastair Welch, said: “We designed our new facilities to be simply easier and the whole team continues to work hard to ensure we deliver on our very special commitments to passengers – that they should wait no more than four minutes to go through security and that, on arrival with hand baggage, they are on the rail station platform within 15 minutes of leaving the aircraft.
“It is clearly this unique service that means more and more passengers are choosing London’s newest airport.”
More than 720,000 passengers used the airport in the year to the end of February 2013, beating the previous record of 692,000 travellers, back in 1967 when it was the UK’s third busiest airport.
The airport’s managing director, Alastair Welch, said: “We designed our new facilities to be simply easier and the whole team continues to work hard to ensure we deliver on our very special commitments to passengers – that they should wait no more than four minutes to go through security and that, on arrival with hand baggage, they are on the rail station platform within 15 minutes of leaving the aircraft.
“It is clearly this unique service that means more and more passengers are choosing London’s newest airport.”
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“It is clearly this unique service that means more and more passengers are choosing London’s newest airport
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diverts
Once again SEN comes to the rescue of LCY,dont know why cityflyer dont move to SEN, it must have bean noticed that itmake more sence to either base/fly into SEN rather than keep diverting from LCY due to bad weather