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Would they be all that much missed, Someone else would just slip in. Room and stands for overnighters. More Wizz?
Other airlines from LGW or LHR who are desperate for London slots? Airlines who cant afford to operate at the big 2.. More execs? Something would fill the void. Like I mentioned before Luton Is so well located and the lack of any expansion at LHR/LGW will keep us busy for a long while.
All hypothetical of course but in the Airline industry even the most bizarre things happen.
Other airlines from LGW or LHR who are desperate for London slots? Airlines who cant afford to operate at the big 2.. More execs? Something would fill the void. Like I mentioned before Luton Is so well located and the lack of any expansion at LHR/LGW will keep us busy for a long while.
All hypothetical of course but in the Airline industry even the most bizarre things happen.
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Find that hard to believe. For a start the locals would kick up a stink as that is public parkland. Also that park was created as a noise buffer zone. A good chunk of that land was a council tip and Signature have taken months stabilising just a tiny amount of that tip so they could lay concrete over it.
Despite my comments above there was a plan many years ago to move the park and use some of the land for airport use but the locals would be right to complain if they found themselves living next to a new apron or a car park instead of a public park.
Despite my comments above there was a plan many years ago to move the park and use some of the land for airport use but the locals would be right to complain if they found themselves living next to a new apron or a car park instead of a public park.
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Wigmore Park
The park is good for expansion.
Most of the residents of Wigmore are airport dependent.
I lived x the street from the park several years ago, and the general airport nose was not intrusive.
The only intrusive noise was from night-time engine runs.
The airport master plan many years ago included the expansion of Wigmore lane, plus access from that side to the airport.
Thus any NIMBY should have been advised in any pre purchase diligence reports.
Glf
Most of the residents of Wigmore are airport dependent.
I lived x the street from the park several years ago, and the general airport nose was not intrusive.
The only intrusive noise was from night-time engine runs.
The airport master plan many years ago included the expansion of Wigmore lane, plus access from that side to the airport.
Thus any NIMBY should have been advised in any pre purchase diligence reports.
Glf
Gulfstreamaviator, as long-term resident of Wigmore, I find your comments a tad simplistic and somewhat inaccurate in parts....
The development known as Century Park which proposed building on a part of the area bordering the airport to the East (currently part of Wigmore Park) has been at the planning stage for years. This has never been proposed as an extension to the airport but rather an employment zone (offices etc)
The major objection of local residents has always been that no direct access to the site should be allowed from Eaton Green Road due to the congestion that we already suffer (and the Council has supported this view)
Local residents have had no communication from local Councillors or the Council over any recent developments regarding Century Park. A summary of the plans can be found at:
http://www.shapeyourfuture.org.uk/do...ated6May11.pdf
The development known as Century Park which proposed building on a part of the area bordering the airport to the East (currently part of Wigmore Park) has been at the planning stage for years. This has never been proposed as an extension to the airport but rather an employment zone (offices etc)
The major objection of local residents has always been that no direct access to the site should be allowed from Eaton Green Road due to the congestion that we already suffer (and the Council has supported this view)
Local residents have had no communication from local Councillors or the Council over any recent developments regarding Century Park. A summary of the plans can be found at:
http://www.shapeyourfuture.org.uk/do...ated6May11.pdf
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And if the go ahead with punching a duel tunnel under taxway Echo, were there not plans for new Industrial units that side?
Last edited by pabely; 29th Aug 2013 at 10:34. Reason: Oops Boeing_eng beat me to it!
Will all the soil from tunnel excavations be deposited around the 26 turning circle area to allow parallel taxiway to be extended to the end of the runway ?
Good infill aggregate material.
Good infill aggregate material.
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ericlday - well yes but century park project is different from airport project so things would have to come together if both are done in parallel. If century park does not move forward why bore new tunnels?
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Maybe ten years ago a dotted line appeared on an official map showing an A505 bypass from the Ibis roundabout that rejoined the A505 back at Lilley Bottom.
The only way Century Park will be built is when a Government funded road is built. That road will not be started from the CTA or the road that serves the long term car park as the CTA could not cope with external non airport traffic and the road that runs along the hangar line is too narrow by the Monarch hangars and that road is basically a service road for the airport that already gets congested with local traffic in the rush hour.
The only way Century Park will be built is when a Government funded road is built. That road will not be started from the CTA or the road that serves the long term car park as the CTA could not cope with external non airport traffic and the road that runs along the hangar line is too narrow by the Monarch hangars and that road is basically a service road for the airport that already gets congested with local traffic in the rush hour.
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What are the chances we might see a Flybe expansion at Luton once their Gatwick operation closes?
Maybe more frequency to Isle of Man & Jersey to counteract the loss of capacity at LGW, plus some new routes like Guernsey & perhaps even Waterford?
Maybe more frequency to Isle of Man & Jersey to counteract the loss of capacity at LGW, plus some new routes like Guernsey & perhaps even Waterford?
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Flybe have not released their aircraft plan for luton for the routes to Isle of Man and jeresy. Maybe a few new routes to guernsey newcastle Newquay waterford or a plane upgrade to a e175
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I am a simple chap
beoing_eng: I agree my view is simplistic, but thats how at the end of the day the entire planning or lack of planning permissions will pan out.
So many times the basic plan is pushed thru, with vast benefits for the local community, and suddenly the true numbers pan out, and the final project is not quite as expectted. Now it is too late to stop it.
The wedding cake and airport industrial estate provide employment and airport support services.
Eaton Green Road, as it exists is as you say a feeder for commuters, and would need widening (airportside I would assume).
If you go back about 10 years ago, the original airport expansion was modified to keep the status quo.
We moved to High town about 5 years ago, so no longer Wigmore residents. Being able to walk to work was a great benefit, eroded by the first real expansion of the terminal, so no benefit in living in Wigmore.
glf
So many times the basic plan is pushed thru, with vast benefits for the local community, and suddenly the true numbers pan out, and the final project is not quite as expectted. Now it is too late to stop it.
The wedding cake and airport industrial estate provide employment and airport support services.
Eaton Green Road, as it exists is as you say a feeder for commuters, and would need widening (airportside I would assume).
If you go back about 10 years ago, the original airport expansion was modified to keep the status quo.
We moved to High town about 5 years ago, so no longer Wigmore residents. Being able to walk to work was a great benefit, eroded by the first real expansion of the terminal, so no benefit in living in Wigmore.
glf
Fair enough GLF, but as LTNMan says I feel Century Park will never happen unless someone else reaches into their pocket to pay for the new access road.
The whole of this area is now hampered by poor infrastructure. Unless serious money is spent to improve it, there will be no expansion or additional employment opportunities created apart from a few tweaks at the airport.
Aside from the traffic issues around the airport, there is also the problem of traffic leaving the M1 at junction 10 in peak periods tailing back up to 10A. Although plans have been mentioned to carry out major work at the Kidney Wood roundabout, this seems to have gone quiet recently.
But of course, all that money spent on the Dunstable to Luton Busway was
worth it!
The whole of this area is now hampered by poor infrastructure. Unless serious money is spent to improve it, there will be no expansion or additional employment opportunities created apart from a few tweaks at the airport.
Aside from the traffic issues around the airport, there is also the problem of traffic leaving the M1 at junction 10 in peak periods tailing back up to 10A. Although plans have been mentioned to carry out major work at the Kidney Wood roundabout, this seems to have gone quiet recently.
But of course, all that money spent on the Dunstable to Luton Busway was
worth it!
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Junction 10 to Capability Green plans are in place and so is the government funding. If you do a google search the timeline shows work starting next year.
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Widening Eaton Green RD would be one of the easiest road widening projects ever. On the airport side it is wide mounds of grass nearly the whole length of the road and the other part of it is large flat car park.