LUTON - 7

[LGS6753]

Germany has been tried with Cologne (HLX, 3x daily), Monchengladbach (Debonair and EAE) and Munich (Debonair & Monarch).

Berlin, Dortmund & Hamburg are current EZY destinations.

Hopefully Waterford will return. And Wizz are likely to add further eastern destinations (former Yugoslavia, Ukraine). I hope to see better, year-round links to Channel Isles and IOM too.

Scandinavia is a big gap, but I don't see many opportunities there. There could be scope for more Italian destinations, and when/if the Greek economy improves, more Greek islands.

When the UK economy picks up, there will be an increase in bucket & spade routes. Destinations further east are unlikely due to runway constraints.

[Buster the Bear]

The holidays in

AWESOME!

[Boeing737-8]

El al

Few diiferent aircraft in the next week
Sunday-767-200
Monday-777-200
Tuesday-767-300
Wednesday-767-300
Thursday-no flight
Friday-777-200
Saturday-no flight
Sunday-777-200 + 737-800

[davidjohnson6]

737-8 - this year from 4th September to about 20th Sept there are 3 different major events in the Jewish calendar with a lot of people travelling between Europe and Israel until end of September. There's a similiar peak each year in April.

[Boeing737-8]

Cargo stands

Have the two stands change

[LTNman]

They were moved in the last week of August

[LTNman]

I see another passenger has been killed in a road traffic accident at the airport. This time it was by the Ibis as the passenger was making her way to the hotel.

[TSR2]

I see another passenger has been killed in a road traffic accident at the airport.

That's very sad.

[LTNman]

It is only a matter of time before a passenger or visitor is killed in the tunnel. Once you are walking in the road a 300m fence stops you getting back onto the pavement.

[davidjohnson6]

When flying to/from Luton with only hand luggage, I usually walk between the parkway train station and the terminal - it's only 15 mins walk.

While the new exit via the Hampton hotel certainly makes the route more pedestrian friendly, once you reach the Holiday Inn heading for the terminal, it becomes *very* heavy on barriers between road and pavement - sufficiently so that as one exits the tunnel on the way to the terminal, I find myself pretty much forced to climb over the barriers. I'm fortunate to be of an age and fitness that climbing barriers is not a great burden but it still feels rather pedestrian unfriendly - almost as if by walking to the airport I'm deemed by the airport or council to be some sort of weirdo. In the tunnel, the fencing is comprised largely of crash barriers rather than a normal fence - suggests that the fence is for the benefit of out-of-control cars rather than for pedestrians

Are all these barriers just a relic of traffic management people at the airport / council being enthusiastic in their jobs, or is there a reason as to why there needs to be *quite* so much fencing ?

[LTNman]

It was put in place to discourage passengers jumping out of cars so avoiding the drop off charge. The argument went that by a car stopping to let passengers out who often then went to the cars boot for their luggage they often cause the congestion. It is only mainly the Eastern Europeans driving foreign registered cars who still stop as the airport can't slap a charge on them.

[Boeing737-8]

Cargo

Why was the stands move

[Boeing737-8]

England Team

Did they go thought ocean sky in the afternoon about 4pm as the england coach was parked outside

[TBSC]

It is only mainly the Eastern Europeans driving foreign registered cars who
still stop

While the Western Europeans with local plates are running over pedestrians. Or is that a generalization, too?

[LTNman]

While the Western Europeans with local plates are running over pedestrians. Or is that a generalization, too?

Just a personal observation over the last few visits to the airport. The Eastern Europeans are also the ones who get their cars towed away when they leave them unoccupied. No doubt there are English as well but it does seem to be mainly a problem from the former Eastern block.

Why was the stands move

The old cargo stands were needed for Signatures new hangar.

[pabely]

I thought the cargo stands move was only temporary until November as per NOTAM, for building work?

[LTNman]

I have looked at the NOTAM, so where does it say it is only temporary? The cargo stands might or might not get shifted again but they won't be going back to their old position unless Signature keep their hangar doors open.

I think there were moved back a few feet and from memory one of the stands was twisted around a little.

Looking at the NOTAM it also states that the declared distances have been amended. I am assuming the A and C refers to take off distances from the intersections at taxiway Alpha and Taxiway Charlie.

I can't remember the last time I saw Charlie used but I guess it is still used on occasions.

E) AMEND RWY DECLARED DISTANCES AS FOLLOWS:
RWY LDA . TODA . ASDA .TORA
26 2080M 3243M 2219M 2162M
26A 0 ......2657M 1828M 1771M
26C 0 ......1580M 1110M 1053M
08C 0 ......1698M 1132M 1132M
08B 0 ......2532M 1688M 1688M
08 2162M 3243M 2162M 2162M

[wallp]

New routes

Re the German market, Cologne & Monchengladbach were served a long time ago now, perhaps time to try both again with the latter to Dusseldorf this time?

I'm aware Easyjet don't go to Frankfurt at all but wondered if the route could offer potential for another carrier, or even the Frankfurt Hahn alternative which Ryanair serve from other points in the UK?

I'm a little surprised Munich can't be made to work beyond a winter ski destination service for Monarch. Maybe they're the wrong airline to get the best out of the route?

I thought LGS6753 made a good point re Italian destinations. There must be plenty of scope for growth there as the economy improves, be it to mainland Italy or to Sardinia and Sicily, same with Greece/Greek islands.

I hope the point about better services to Isle of Man & Jersey is also true. I think I'm right in saying that Luton sustained a year round service to the Isle of Man for many years during the Manx/BA period? Hopefully Flybe can find a way to make the service work on this basis going forward, especially once their Gatwick flights cease.

[pabely]

LTNman
A2944/13CONFIGURATION OF STANDS 30 AND 31 ON THE CARGO APRON HAVE CHANGED. A FOLLOW ME SHALL BE PROVIDED AND ACFT WILL BE MARSHALLED. 23 AUG 15:37 2013 UNTIL 23 NOV 23:00 2013. CREATED: 23 AUG 15:38 2013

[LTNman]

They are definitely not going back. I had a look at the planning application today and part of the planning permission was to shift them.