Ryanair - 9
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,164
Originally Posted by Trav a la
Ever get the impression that Ryanair feel they are above the law?
Ryanair rejects UK court jurisdiction on passenger compensation
Ryanair rejects UK court jurisdiction on passenger compensation
Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 airline, today (31 May) welcomed the Liverpool County Court ruling upholding Ryanair’s policy requiring EU261 cases involving “claims chasers” to be heard in the Irish Courts and dismissing an application by claims chasing firm Hughes Walker to have their cases heard in England in an effort to needlessly force more customers through the courts.
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 140
Originally Posted by EI-EIDW
Decisions at the COA level become binding upon the lower courts so it may just be temporary.
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
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Ryanair adding Air Europa transatlantic services to the booking engine, and discussion in the newspaper today that Alitalia may also feature....
...a stroke of genuis, Ryanair gains a reputation as a go to site for transatlantic trips, then it awaits the next big downturn and taps into a pipeline of discounted long haul aircraft, then has a competitive edge to launch its own services and has instant traction, successful routes chosen based on data from previous sales...
...a stroke of genuis, Ryanair gains a reputation as a go to site for transatlantic trips, then it awaits the next big downturn and taps into a pipeline of discounted long haul aircraft, then has a competitive edge to launch its own services and has instant traction, successful routes chosen based on data from previous sales...
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oban, Scotland
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Sober Park: If I turned up for an early meal at my local chippy, when there are plenty of empty seats, I would expect to be seated with my partner, not sent to opposite corners of the room and told that if I had wanted to sit next to her I should have booked ahead and paid a premium.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Belgium
Posts: 171
What I've never understood is that this is against CAA rules. A child under 12 should be seated no more than separated by an aisle or one row!! Can you imagine a child got injured for any reason the claim against FR!! A
At booking time 1 day before an almost full flight you should be still able to get 2 seats together.................... if travelling with a child under 12.
Everybody will not have checked in.
Everybody will not have checked in.
On this flight, there are 12 empty seats all over the place (sorry, I cannot get them all on one screen):
You cannot book A child under 12 on a flight without booking a seat with adult beside them...........
What confuses me even more is the fact I knew someone flying BA Club World, their travelling companion was allocated a seat completely different to where he was sitting.
Same applies for Emirates as well and a number of other flag carriers.
Not to forget EasyJet, Jet2 also follow the same practice as Ryanair.
The real innovation with the new Ryanair system is that it will purposely seat you far apart even when fully normal seats are available. If you are assigned 11B, it may seat your travelling companion in 26B even if 11A, 11C, 11D, 11E and 11F are all available.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Dublin
Posts: 956
In the event of an emergency, the person (stranger) seated beside the child will have to take responsibility for the child's safety.
In addition there are Child protection issues - laws don't allow an unvetted stranger access to children in this way. Then you'd have to ask what type of parent would prefer not to pay a small charge to have their children seated next to them under their watchful eye.
In addition there are Child protection issues - laws don't allow an unvetted stranger access to children in this way. Then you'd have to ask what type of parent would prefer not to pay a small charge to have their children seated next to them under their watchful eye.
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Scotland
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Originally Posted by Sober Lark
In the event of an emergency, the person (stranger) seated beside the child will have to take responsibility for the child's safety.
In addition there are Child protection issues - laws don't allow an unvetted stranger access to children in this way. Then you'd have to ask what type of parent would prefer not to pay a small charge to have their children seated next to them under their watchful eye.
In addition there are Child protection issues - laws don't allow an unvetted stranger access to children in this way. Then you'd have to ask what type of parent would prefer not to pay a small charge to have their children seated next to them under their watchful eye.
FR should be complying with CAA rules if operating in the U.K. That's the reason we don't have PIA flights that have bits falling off due to there poor maintenance operating to the UK they have to use the newer maintained aircraft with the Boeing maintenance contracts.
I can't believe anyone is defending FR on this subject. Though BA have started flying with no one seated in the Exit row as that's a premium seat. In my day as a dispatcher these seats needed to be filled to make sure the doors are opened quickly this included crew moving people on board if check-in failed to place someone there. Seemly making money now out weighs peoples lives. As I've said if a FR flight has a Manchester event and a child not seated with their family dies or is injured all the profit FR makes out of its £2 charge will be gone in compensation they'll be forced to pay even in an Irish Court. I know some bean counter has already done that bit of maths. Yes if you want to charge for groups to be seated together then 18 & over. Though having had to deal with rowdy or criminal behaviour associated with Stag & Hen parties I can't imagine the pain of having to be seated next to them as they spread their crap all over the plane rather than being seated in one area together.
Last edited by GLAEDI; 1st Jun 2017 at 09:33. Reason: Grammar
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Dublin
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I flew J Class on SQ SIN - PER and one of my children was separated and seated next to a stranger. He didn't want to move but when I asked him politely if he would take responsibility for my child's safety in the event of an emergency he saw the light and changed seats much to my appreciation.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Spain
Posts: 67
Originally Posted by Sober Lark
The airline provides you with a seat to your destination. If you want to sit together you pay its simple. I want to sit with my partner on an Emirates flight to South Africa and they charge me.
What makes the British complain so much about everything? Radio 4s listeners branded them 'biased and unconventional'. Ryanair bad, Easyjet good, the whinging makes me sick.
If you want something to complain about, see what Brexit has in store for you with your future seating plans.
What makes the British complain so much about everything? Radio 4s listeners branded them 'biased and unconventional'. Ryanair bad, Easyjet good, the whinging makes me sick.
If you want something to complain about, see what Brexit has in store for you with your future seating plans.
Other airlines will always seat passengers together (albeit the location is not their choice) pending availability. Ryanair opt to purposely split passengers on a single reservation across the aircraft.
ie: 13A/13B and 21E/21F are the last seats available. If two passengers on the same reservation book together, logic (and FR's old system) dictates one booking gets row 13, and the other 21. However under the new system it would sit one of each in row 13 and one of each in row 21, splitting apart the booking across the aircraft.
So instead, now PAX will play musical chairs before the flight and during; thereby making the bar service absolute hell from a crew perspective. PAX changing seats, blocking aisles, luggage split across the aircraft after landing thereby delaying disembarking, etc.
I fly Ryanair dozens of times a year and it's my go-to airline over the likes of easyJet, however first-time users of Ryanair aren't likely to be converted if this is their first experience.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bishops Stortford
Age: 60
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If you look at the Ryanair website under the Family Extra page, it says this:
"Free seats for kids
Get free reserved seats for up to 4 kids aged between 2 and 12 with every adult seat booked. As part of our Always Getting Better programme it's now mandatory for adults to have a reserved seat when travelling with kids, this means you don't need to worry about being separated on board."
That's as clear as it could be.
"Free seats for kids
Get free reserved seats for up to 4 kids aged between 2 and 12 with every adult seat booked. As part of our Always Getting Better programme it's now mandatory for adults to have a reserved seat when travelling with kids, this means you don't need to worry about being separated on board."
That's as clear as it could be.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Dublin
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Originally Posted by Millionmileshigh
Maybe I should have been clearer. The crew will make sure the kid is with an adult that they're travelling with. I.e. Not just a random stranger.
MDS
Not sure what nationality has to do with this. I'm not even British
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by Trav a la
The judge also said he also acknowledged that he found it very difficult to resolve the legal issues and he gave the Claimant immediate permission to make a "leapfrog" appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Decisions at the COA level become binding upon the lower courts so it may just be temporary.
Decisions at the COA level become binding upon the lower courts so it may just be temporary.
Once UK does Brexit will they still keep EU261 ?
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: last time I looked I was still here.
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As part of our Always Getting Better programme it's now mandatory for adults to have a reserved seat when travelling with kids, this means you don't need to worry about being separated on board."
Works in the flight deck as well. (Tongue in cheek and can be moved to Friday Jokes. It's time for some light heartedness)
Works in the flight deck as well. (Tongue in cheek and can be moved to Friday Jokes. It's time for some light heartedness)
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 140
Originally Posted by racedo
Court of Appeal is not final as further appeals to Supreme Court and ECJ are also possible.
Agreed.
Once UK does Brexit will they still keep EU261 ?
Agreed.
Once UK does Brexit will they still keep EU261 ?
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Dublin
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Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 airline, today (1 June) announced that customers who purchase an allocated seat for their flight can now check-in up to 60 days in advance, the latest improvement delivered under Year 4 of its “Always Getting Better” programme. - See more at: Welcome to Ryanair!
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Location: Europa
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Customers who don’t wish to purchase an allocated seat can check-in between 4 days and 2 hours before their flight and will be randomly allocated a seat free of charge.
There's a whole logic of seating people in a specific order (and apart from each other if it involves multiple people on the same booking).
Last edited by Charlie Roy; 2nd Jun 2017 at 14:47.
