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"In accordance with Regulation (EC) 2111/2005 this email is to inform you that your flight(s) will be operated by Air Contractor on Ryanair’s behalf on a similar aircraft type (Boeing 737). All the Terms and Conditions of Carriage previously agreed to when making your booking with Ryanair remain in force."
What is this all about?
What is this all about?

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Air Contractors are operating some flights with 734's for Ryanair this summer. EU regulation says if the flight is contracted to another airline pax must be informed of same, basically.

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Seems reasonable to me, Lark - firstly, it saves confusion when the pax are confronted with an aircraft in a different livery, and second, there are some operators who's aircraft I wouldn't want to fly, and others will have similar feelings about some operators, so it would enable a refund and alternative arrangements to be made in advance if that were the case; if, for example, a Lion Air was on the tarmac for your wet leased flight, would you be quite so happy to board it?

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The EU blacklist would protect me against Lion Air so the situation would never arise. I have complete confidence in Ryanair's choice of replacement aircraft on the DUB- PRG this particular day but on your other point, where in Ryanair's T&Cs did you see I could get a refund if I wanted one?

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I'd love it if Lion Air turned up... Everyone needs to live on the edge sometimes, looking forward to my £14 flight from Bangkok to Chiang Mai in August.
Anyway, does anyone know whether Ryanair have butchered the interior of the FZ 738's or do they still have TV's/FZ interior etc, and how can I get on one? Or is it just blind luck?
Cheers all
Anyway, does anyone know whether Ryanair have butchered the interior of the FZ 738's or do they still have TV's/FZ interior etc, and how can I get on one? Or is it just blind luck?
Cheers all

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In exactly the same way, the EU code of conduct requires codeshare disclosure, so that if you book a ticket on a codeshare/franchise flight with a BA flight number, the system will generate a message that the flight is operated by, for example, Iberia, with an Iberia aircraft and crew (and thus best avoided!)
I rarely defend anything that the EU has done but this does have a value.
I rarely defend anything that the EU has done but this does have a value.

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Would hope so, can't have the Prols getting ideas above their station.
On the "notification" front, I would say look at the nasty little accident involving Manx Airlines & a Spanish Metroliner a couple of years back & rejoice in the fact that you find out prior to strolling across the apron. You don't have to look as far as Indonesia, there are a few "legal" companies I would not countenance flying with in Europe.
I wouldn't have such blind confidence in the choice of aircraft leased in, as long as it is legal (covering of @ss being paramount) I would suggest price/availability would have influenced the choice more than the reputation (good or bad) of any operator concerned.
On the "notification" front, I would say look at the nasty little accident involving Manx Airlines & a Spanish Metroliner a couple of years back & rejoice in the fact that you find out prior to strolling across the apron. You don't have to look as far as Indonesia, there are a few "legal" companies I would not countenance flying with in Europe.
I wouldn't have such blind confidence in the choice of aircraft leased in, as long as it is legal (covering of @ss being paramount) I would suggest price/availability would have influenced the choice more than the reputation (good or bad) of any operator concerned.

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Lark, stop being so literal! I used that company as an extreme example; I'm quite aware that they're EU black listed. Look at the Cork turbo prop crash a couple of years ago to see an EU sub-chartered for a Manx company going awry over dodgy standards.
As for refunds if you chose not to travel on subbed flights, I'm pretty sure you can as you are not getting the exact product you paid for. Consumer laws probably have something to cover it, and with good reason. A lack of mention on a website doesn't preclude that.
As for refunds if you chose not to travel on subbed flights, I'm pretty sure you can as you are not getting the exact product you paid for. Consumer laws probably have something to cover it, and with good reason. A lack of mention on a website doesn't preclude that.

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AL Shuffler, sorry I thought you were serious about Lion Air. On the other point, I don't think EU2111/2005 also means an automatic or option to any refund entitlement? Nothing in the notice I received implied this was the case. My reading of FR's T&C is that it is not an option.
I fully appreciate the validity of what you and Captplaystation remark regarding Cork. Did PAX on 7100 get such an advance notice as per regulation?
I fully appreciate the validity of what you and Captplaystation remark regarding Cork. Did PAX on 7100 get such an advance notice as per regulation?

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I don't think EU2111/2005 also means an automatic or option to any refund entitlement? Nothing in the notice I received implied this was the case. My reading of FR's T&C is that it is not an option.

Would these 12 routes include the 11 already seasonal routes to Billund, Bournemouth, Girona, Prestwick, Gothenburg, Kaunas, Krakow, Rygge, Seville, Valencia and Wroclaw ?
Alternatively, are there additional routes being reduced at Malta instead ?
Alternatively, are there additional routes being reduced at Malta instead ?

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Leeds, Pisa, Trapani and Turin are all bookable this summer but not beyond the end of October.
Seville and Valencia? Already removed from the drop-down.
Pete
Seville and Valencia? Already removed from the drop-down.
Pete
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RYANAIR LAUNCHES WINTER SCHEDULED FROM / TO BUDAPEST
2A/C
1ST PLANE
STN 0630-1150 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
BGY 1215-1550 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
DUB 1650-2320 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
2ND PLANE
CIA 0630-1020 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
BVA 1045-1545 1-3-5-7
BRS 1045-1635 2
PSA 1045-1440 6
PSA 1630-2025 3
BRS 1630-2220 5
MAN 1720-2320 2-4-6-7
Plus routes to
BCN 1-3-5-6-7 (1935-2000)
CRL 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (1600-1625)
BLL 4-7 (1230-1255)
MAD 2-4-6 (1920-1945)
STN 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (1505-1530)
STN 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (2100-2125)
2A/C
1ST PLANE
STN 0630-1150 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
BGY 1215-1550 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
DUB 1650-2320 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
2ND PLANE
CIA 0630-1020 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
BVA 1045-1545 1-3-5-7
BRS 1045-1635 2
PSA 1045-1440 6
PSA 1630-2025 3
BRS 1630-2220 5
MAN 1720-2320 2-4-6-7
Plus routes to
BCN 1-3-5-6-7 (1935-2000)
CRL 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (1600-1625)
BLL 4-7 (1230-1255)
MAD 2-4-6 (1920-1945)
STN 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (1505-1530)
STN 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (2100-2125)
