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Old 10th Nov 2015, 09:30
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Any idea when they will be for sale?
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 09:37
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According to the airports twitter account all 8 routes are on sale from today.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 10:07
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ALC & AGP have appeared in the destination list now just not bookable yet.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 16:21
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Routes would appear to go head to head with Jet2's offerings just up the road, but maybe as their focus is on holidays rather than flight only nowadays, the market will hopefully be there.

Sadly the AMS offering is no competition to KLM's services to LBA & HUY, & daily JER is ambitious on an EMB195.

Still - all good stuff and hope it works to put DSA firmly on the map and stop the critics who just want the Airport to fail.

Hope Peels legal team have got the 'long term' deal sewn up, and that there is no option of a repeat of Easy's one summer presence.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 18:34
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Good luck on the Newquay service, a real money spinner - I think not, just like the services to Deauville last summer all now scrapped.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 18:37
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Think that the E95 is overkill on DSA - NQY.

Wouldn't be so bad if it offered up some connection opportunities to euroland !!!!

Hey. You never know. It might work


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Old 11th Nov 2015, 12:19
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I'll give Flybe 12 months and the routes will be pulled - like they have just done at BOH.
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Old 11th Nov 2015, 15:09
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Grrr

Antonov 225 there today.
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Old 11th Nov 2015, 15:17
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I don't think you can compare DSA and BOH, totally different things. BOH is a short drive away from one of their biggest bases, and in an area with little business traffic and seasonal demand. My take on BOH is, they started STN and BOH at the same time and both seemed to be an 'interesting' development. The Manchester Airport group is the common factor and MAN is a massive base for flyBe, maybe the reason for STN and BOH was to get a deal at MAN, and MAG said you have to try the others for us, they did, it didn't work, BE get what they want and just had to experiment with BOH and STN probably at marginal cost.

As for DSA, Sheffield City Region is a big, untapped market. Only served by airports that are 70-90+ mins away by congested motorway or precarious cross pennine routes. DSA is a well equipped airport, with a brand new link road opening, and a large population with no competition. FlyBE get first mover advantage and find a profitable use for the aircraft. To me, I think it has significant legs and would hope it will grow ..

But that's just my opinion ...
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Old 12th Nov 2015, 08:29
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Question DSA - NQY

Good luck on the Newquay service, a real money spinner - I think not

Does NQY still have the IOS route? If it has there could be mileage there although I'm not sure that Donny would be a good starting point.
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Old 12th Nov 2015, 09:16
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NQY

ISC is still served ex NQY multi times daily.

However as far as I'm aware BE don't codeshare or interline with skybus.

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Old 12th Nov 2015, 13:51
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Yes, cornishsimon is correct - there is no Codeshare.

The connection would work quite well though with DSA-NQY-IOS. You can fly DSA-NQY 08:10-09:20 but the next NQY-IOS flight would be at 13:50 (every day), so a 4.5 hour layover, arriving into Scilly at 14:20.
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Old 12th Nov 2015, 14:14
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Was BHD not meant to be a route
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Old 12th Nov 2015, 17:47
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Mind you iv always thought that skybus would get better numbers through NQY by offering codeshares to ISC !

No idea why they don't. BE, BA, EK, AY all have codeshares into NQY on BE so it would seem logical to me.


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Old 13th Nov 2015, 08:54
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If the link still existed that was to be my next question. I can't really see why a code share agreement isn't in place or at least on the horizon. Anyone any ideas?
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 11:48
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Huge bird! I would like to see her one day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7PhWzBc8Q0
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Old 18th Nov 2015, 10:17
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I'm told from an airport employee that AF/KL codeshares should be put on the CDG/AMS flights in the new year.

Bit of a false start really as the flights start in March and will have been on sale for a few months without the transfer possiblity - hence lost business as it should have all been lined up at the same time.
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Old 18th Nov 2015, 13:52
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Whilst it does seem obvious to do so, an airline cannot negotiate codeshares on its services before the route is announced. There has to be time between a route going on sale and a codeshare being placed on it. This goes for all routes, regardless of how obvious it may seem.


A codeshare cant be the deciding factor for a new route as its seen as collusion between two businesses - in this case Flybe and AF/KLM. So discussions between the carriers cannot begin until the route is announced.


Quite sure your contact is correct though - there will undoubtedly be codeshares on those services in the coming months.
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Old 1st Dec 2015, 00:23
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Good PAX data for DSA this year - relatively speaking. With Nov and Dec still to go, it's showing 750k movements - more than the full-year totals for the past three years. With the new flights next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see something approaching a million passengers passing through in 2016. It's only hit the 1m mark once before, in 2007, when I believe Ryanair and Easyjet were still there. It's still not particularly busy, of course, but the growth is encouraging.
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Old 1st Dec 2015, 09:42
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Could be busier still if flybe & Wizz advertised what's on offer, seems to be really lazy attitude to route promotion throughout the region, hoping people will just find flight options from DSA online.
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