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Old 19th Dec 2012, 06:07
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They are trying to establish themselves in a new market niche. That comes expensive.
Monarch are trying to get themselves out of a niche and diversify. New routes come expensive.

Airlines and Niche markets do not work! bmibaby tried and failed
Depends what you mean by niche?
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 10:17
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Extra frequencies added, as demand for some of the ski routes was higher then expected.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 12:29
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Whilst some ski destinations have lost frequencies - outside the holidays MAN-FDH is down to 1/7, LGW-FDH has also seen some cuts (these are in addition to the cute for the MUC routes already seen).

However, the website now indicates that LGW-FDH will continue 3/7 throughout summer.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 17:17
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I said that Monarch were establishing themselves in a new market niche, and not a new niche market. Very different things.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 18:45
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Winter 2013/14 flights are starting to appear bookable on the Monarch website. LGW-FDH goes up to 5/7, MAN-FDH 1/7. MUC routes all return, with exception of BHX, which so far is the only current MUC route missing for beyoned Nov12
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 20:00
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Luton to Sharm El Sheikh Service...

Looks like Monarch are to fly Luton to Sharm El Sheikh from next winter...

Flying three times a week on a Weds, Sat and Sun with an A321.

Will be quite a lot of competition on the route now. easyJet are flying 5 times a week and you have Thomson flying twice weekly too.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 21:33
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Also looks like Monarch are to fly Birmingham to Bordeaux and Birmingham to Split as well from 22nd May 2013. Also London Gatwick to Verona from 2nd May 2013.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 21:39
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I wonder if they will be using avion express a319 or a320's this summer.
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Don't think so but am always prepared to be shot down by those who "Know"!
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 10:19
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The plan is to be all in-house.
There should also be a stanby aircraft. It seems to be an A321.

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Old 21st Dec 2012, 11:05
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I wonder if they will be using avion express a319 or a320's this summer
According to the January edition of Airliner World, Avion Express will be operating the domestic routes for Virgin Atlantic with up to 5 A320 aircraft.
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 13:23
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Thats not happening as aerlingus won the contract instead of avion express....
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 16:23
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Surely if Virgin were serious and committed to that route, they would've leased their own aircraft and painted their own livery.
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 19:34
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The 4 Aer Lingus aircraft that Virgin are leasing for the domestic routes will be painted in virgin colours and staff will wear virgin uniforms. Its not the virgin is not committed to the domestic services its just doing it this way (which is a well established method of starting new routes) they can access aircraft quickly rather than wait for slots from a lessor, get crew with domestic experience and of using LHR without having to train their own and have flexibility to expand or contract.
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 13:27
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what equipment are MON using to GNB ex LGW on Saturdays this winter? Looks like there are quite a few flights on that route too...
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 14:11
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LGW - GNB

According to the system this morning for today -

22/12/12 - LGW - GNB

05:50 - A321
06:05 - A330
08:55 - B757
11:35 - A330
13:25 - A300

For the 29th December its the same but with no A321 rotation and an A300 replacing the A330. Every saturday for January it appears to be the same as above but with the A300 replacing the A330 and the A321 rotation departing slightly earlier at 05:30.

Hope this helps

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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 16:29
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1400 passengers each way, in a day! I find it hard to believe Monarch had sufficient demand to fill those aircraft.

(unless I've misunderstood your post, of course!)
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 16:35
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They don't. But the tour operators who contract 4 of the 5 a/c do....
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 16:36
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Only the A321 Rotation is a ZB the rest are all charter flight numbers.
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 17:30
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Many thanks Alex. Look forward to the old 757 on the 12th then
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