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Old 4th Oct 2016, 21:27
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Manchester was never a main engineering base for Midland. It was the same as all other outstations with based engineers covering turnaround and nightstopping frames. All heavy maintenance was performed at Heathrow or East Mids. Saab and Embrier at Abz.
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Old 4th Oct 2016, 21:31
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It certainly had a significant line operation that could have looked after the 330 operation had midland choosen to let its own people look after the aircraft rather than contract monarch to do so ...However im sure they had their reasons .

Monarch did not do the base maintenace as i recall only the line operation , Didn't Lufthansa do the heavy mainteance in the phillipines ?
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Old 4th Oct 2016, 21:43
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As far as I recall, only two engineers were on shift at any one time. They could never have covered the A330 ops. Regional was covered by a third party company also. Heavy maintenance on the A330 was indeed performed by Lufthansa, however I don't know the location.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 07:57
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I've been there. More than once.

It never came.

Hoping for a sunnier outlook for those involved.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 08:13
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Has the "shadow airline" returned home yet? (beyond the Miami air)
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 08:16
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N120UA has just left TFS bound for IAD.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 08:41
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Any truth in the rumour that Transport Secretary Chris Grayling was given a right chewing out by PM Theresa May for authorising the chartering in of the 747s from the US with government funds, picked up by enthusiasts and which got into social and thus the wider media and opened Monarch up to all sorts of unsteadying comments.

Grayling has become known for a range of stupidities in government, and with this decision only weeks after his appointment it seems the knives may be out for him.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 08:52
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I guess ATOL? So in essance holiday-makers who are daft enough to pay above the odds for a "protected" tacky package holiday.
I think you perhaps don't understand what a package holiday is. Atol is not just for packages either (which aren't all tacky by any means). Flight plus bookings and quite a lot of flight only sales are protected as well, which is which there are 3 types of Atol certificates.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 09:47
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WHBM , If that's the case then its hardly surprising the knives are out for Grayling...

Incredible if it turns out this was all brought about by a ill advised decision by a senior government figure
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 09:55
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Did someone say the government would never get involved!!??
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 10:13
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Any truth in the rumour that Transport Secretary Chris Grayling was given a right chewing out by PM Theresa May for authorising the chartering in of the 747s from the US with government funds, picked up by enthusiasts and which got into social and thus the wider media and opened Monarch up to all sorts of unsteadying comments.
You were right to point out this is just a rumour but if there is any truth in it, I wouldn't be surprised to see Greybull's lawyers getting involved as this has clearly damaged the Monarch brand
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 10:21
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Dead right if it is true they want taking to the cleaners , Anything in the press about this story?
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 11:26
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Travel trade views.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/t...f-clarity-7110
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 13:20
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Would the CAA require ministerial authorisation to charter jets? Would the PM be very interested in the case of Monarch? All seems a bit unlikely to me.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 13:40
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I would have thought the fate of a reputable long established airline group that provides a lot of jobs and in many cases well paid jobs plus has over the years trained many young people in highly technical skills should concern them..
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 16:31
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Maybe, but

Any truth in the rumour that Transport Secretary Chris Grayling was given a right chewing out by PM Theresa May for authorising the chartering in of the 747s from the US with government funds
doesn't ring true to me a) it wasn't government funds b) why would TM be so vexed? c) how would anyone get to hear about the alleged chewing out? d) why are none of the news media mentioning it?
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 16:35
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Last Friday (the day Monarch's three ATOLs were renewed) I met up with a friend whose relative had quoted to her a senior politician who had apparently commented on the Monarch situation at a party that her relative had attended in London.

Anecdotally, it seems that the situation is being discussed at cabinet level. I would expect the PM to be at least briefed on any potential negative company news (particularly post-Brexit) before she finds out on the News at Ten.

However, if true (and I have no reason to doubt my source) in my view it is totally inappropriate for one of her cabinet ministers to then be discussing and expressing opinions about the matter at social events.

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Old 5th Oct 2016, 16:42
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Well, they have one more week.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 17:32
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I wouldn't worry about the one more week. One of the United 747s (N120UA) has now flown back to Washington and is due to soon depart to SFO.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 17:51
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Given the cost that was expended on rescue flights (which i gather have been stood down) the CAA must have been pretty confident in monarchs incoming investment to grant a extension given the last thing they would want is a repeat performance a week or so later
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