Monarch - 3
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: London
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's vicious speculation and rumours! I work for Monarch and none of my colleagues are aware of this. Honestly have people got nothing better to do that spread idle and unfounded rumours!!??
We are as busy as ever and crews are working flat out in some cases!
I honestly believe some of these rumours are peddled by our competitor airlines who would rather we just disppaeared! Well sunshine boys we are staying put!!
We are as busy as ever and crews are working flat out in some cases!
I honestly believe some of these rumours are peddled by our competitor airlines who would rather we just disppaeared! Well sunshine boys we are staying put!!
It appears the CAA have charted 2xUnited 744s, an Omni 767 and an Air Transat A330 to operate a series of flights over the next 7 todays to/from the UK to typical bucket and spade destinations.
All the flights are flying into the UK full, but ferrying back out empty then returning full again.
This type of operation is only ever seen after the collapse of a major tour operator/airline.
A lot of the United Airlines 744 schedules tie in directly with Monarch scheduled flights.
Make of this what you will
All the flights are flying into the UK full, but ferrying back out empty then returning full again.
This type of operation is only ever seen after the collapse of a major tour operator/airline.
A lot of the United Airlines 744 schedules tie in directly with Monarch scheduled flights.
Make of this what you will
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 51
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All those flights are in system SWBKCB, first ones tomorrow. I've posted a small selection only above.
If the UAL, Omni, TSC flights are happening is not speculation...they are real, 100%...the reason for them is where the guess work is coming into it.
If the UAL, Omni, TSC flights are happening is not speculation...they are real, 100%...the reason for them is where the guess work is coming into it.
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,974
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Feel sorry for those monarch crew I'm hoping this isn't true.
Crews are always last to find out as if you knew you wouldn't fly today for them but if CAA maybe about to pull the plug then
Crews are always last to find out as if you knew you wouldn't fly today for them but if CAA maybe about to pull the plug then
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 51
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
They only popped up back end of last week. Since the initial 1 x UAL 744 it is now 2 (PMI / TFS), Air Transat 330's and Omni Air 777 (BCN) also thrown in today...it's a growing list...all one thing in common...UK to Spain empty and returning full.
Could it be another airline / tour operator involved ? It'd be devastating if it were MON
Could it be another airline / tour operator involved ? It'd be devastating if it were MON
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 798
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Have some respect for Monarchs employees.
Seeing as you're so quick to get this information out there, please confirm to everyone what it is you do within the industry to be able to obtain such solid facts?
Whether you work in the industry or not is no excuse for releasing statements like that.
Seeing as you're so quick to get this information out there, please confirm to everyone what it is you do within the industry to be able to obtain such solid facts?
Whether you work in the industry or not is no excuse for releasing statements like that.
Crosswind limits, I think you will find that your colleagues at other airlines, regardless of whether the rumour is true or not, will be thinking of you guys this evening. Many of those colleagues will have been through an airline/employer collapse before and will not wish this upon you. I don't believe rumours would be peddled on a corporate level either.
The fact that your flights are busy and you are working flat out does not necessarily mean anything. There is obviously something going on and I keep my fingers crossed.
The fact that your flights are busy and you are working flat out does not necessarily mean anything. There is obviously something going on and I keep my fingers crossed.
750XL - I've no doubt the flights are operating but where does
come from?
Also a little odd that only North American operators are being quoted - no EU capacity?
It appears the CAA have charted....
Also a little odd that only North American operators are being quoted - no EU capacity?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hemel Hempstead
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Normally you would expect HiFly, but a lot of their aircraft are operating for ELAL, and Blue Panorama are operating flights for Norwegian, so maybe a shortage of aircraft over here. Yes, agree its strange its all US aircraft, and all large aircraft at that.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ainsdale
Posts: 1,747
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Air Transat A330 due out of MAN tomorrow to AGP as the TS255P, back as the TS255.
Incidentally the same 3 numbers as Monarchs AGP
Incidentally the same 3 numbers as Monarchs AGP
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A great shame if it happens, have flown many times with them. Would of expected them to be a prime takeover target....
It would be one of most organised winding down I have ever seen and its why I don't really believe it.
It would be one of most organised winding down I have ever seen and its why I don't really believe it.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 51
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I know someone flying AGP-MAN Tuesday PM. They have been made aware the flight number is now TSC655. Monarch denying these flights are not to do with them is now disproven beyond doubt.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Greybull??
I have been wondering if this is more to do with the owners Greybull.Their company website has suddenly acquired a rather sparse look about it, considering they have so many irons in the fire: Greybull Capital
Rather limited for a company that acquired a large part of Tata Steel in June this year don`t you think..I hope these rumours are without substance but if not then lets hope Monarch is a viable entity, which I think it is and can be sold on/management buyout etc.
Massive political headache for the Government though if true
Rather limited for a company that acquired a large part of Tata Steel in June this year don`t you think..I hope these rumours are without substance but if not then lets hope Monarch is a viable entity, which I think it is and can be sold on/management buyout etc.
Massive political headache for the Government though if true
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A company is obligated to trade up until the following are activated at the SAME time for a PLC a statement to the city and appointment of the receivers. This typically happens about 07.30 UK time for many GB businesses.
The elephant in the room here is Grey Bull they may be about to pull the plug - they have been looking for a buyer for some time and they want their money for their next venture "steel"
Grey Bull may have given the CAA early warning
Just a quick heads up right now Monarch has just three scheduled departures from the UK left today to Ibiza from Manchester/Gatwick and Birmingham. If these leave on time and are a back over night by 7.30am ALL the fleet should back in the UK real tragedy emerging if true.
The elephant in the room here is Grey Bull they may be about to pull the plug - they have been looking for a buyer for some time and they want their money for their next venture "steel"
Grey Bull may have given the CAA early warning
Just a quick heads up right now Monarch has just three scheduled departures from the UK left today to Ibiza from Manchester/Gatwick and Birmingham. If these leave on time and are a back over night by 7.30am ALL the fleet should back in the UK real tragedy emerging if true.