Monarch - 3
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: London
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Brigantee
Have you personally spoken to Greybull or have it in writing from them? My guess is not! So stop **** stirring unless you know for sure!
Only time will tell what actually happens and there may be some truth in it but your scaremongering /**** stirring is adding nothing to the conversation other than irritating other people with your forthright ill-informed opinions!
Have you personally spoken to Greybull or have it in writing from them? My guess is not! So stop **** stirring unless you know for sure!
Only time will tell what actually happens and there may be some truth in it but your scaremongering /**** stirring is adding nothing to the conversation other than irritating other people with your forthright ill-informed opinions!
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From a milkman who is shagging a Norwegian airlines cleaner!!!
Remember in 2014 people were ADAMANT spotty M were going bust.
Well we're still here you bunch of c**t*. Wishing ill times to all the hard working peeps. You didn't have to see pilots and cabin crew crying like I did. I know this is a rumour network, but try and back up your statements.
Remember in 2014 people were ADAMANT spotty M were going bust.
Well we're still here you bunch of c**t*. Wishing ill times to all the hard working peeps. You didn't have to see pilots and cabin crew crying like I did. I know this is a rumour network, but try and back up your statements.
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Uncertain
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm so glad somebody wrote those posts for me.
There's a lot of rumour and rumour can hurt people a lot.
Greybull have publically always stated they were interested in long term investments. That's their profile. Deutsch Bank have a role as their advisor for any opportunities to expand or indeed possibly be sold off.
With the airline having an expansion plan, it makes tremendous sense for Greybull to keep hold of the company for longer. Monarch is profitable now and it's a very different beast to the loss making one back in 2013/14.
Something may or may not happen. But for gods sake, enough of the doom mongering. A lot of us depend on the airline for our families and mortgages. Telling us we're all going to lose our jobs based purely on what you "think" and not know is incredibly immature.
What happens will happen. Until then, we'll try not to worry about it.
There's a lot of rumour and rumour can hurt people a lot.
Greybull have publically always stated they were interested in long term investments. That's their profile. Deutsch Bank have a role as their advisor for any opportunities to expand or indeed possibly be sold off.
With the airline having an expansion plan, it makes tremendous sense for Greybull to keep hold of the company for longer. Monarch is profitable now and it's a very different beast to the loss making one back in 2013/14.
Something may or may not happen. But for gods sake, enough of the doom mongering. A lot of us depend on the airline for our families and mortgages. Telling us we're all going to lose our jobs based purely on what you "think" and not know is incredibly immature.
What happens will happen. Until then, we'll try not to worry about it.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well Monarch certainly has a lot of support here.
I really don't see why discussion on a rumour network will change the future one bit - what will be will be. It won't make their employees either less or more secure.
The UK is a vibrant economy that will be served by airlines that serve their customers and employ people.
Eaxctly who that will be remains to be seen but I would think it is pretty clear who that is most likely to be and those for whom it is less likely.
It is however good that we are discussing sale not failure or closure. Passengers can book securely and that means that employees are more secure too.
I really don't see why discussion on a rumour network will change the future one bit - what will be will be. It won't make their employees either less or more secure.
The UK is a vibrant economy that will be served by airlines that serve their customers and employ people.
Eaxctly who that will be remains to be seen but I would think it is pretty clear who that is most likely to be and those for whom it is less likely.
It is however good that we are discussing sale not failure or closure. Passengers can book securely and that means that employees are more secure too.
I think people making stuff up on here, being unable to back it up with proof can make a big difference.
Imagine your bank,
Rumour, "a new investment at such a rate" is of interest.
Rumour " bank had bad investors and is going bust, no funds in it accounts" this would have a major detrimental effect as people are liking to avoid it, based on zero facts!!
Its employees would be very effected.
It's the same with an airline.
Back it up or shut up if it is of major standing.
A new route is of interest.
International companies being brought/sold/merged/bust need some substantiation.
It will have major effects on finance, suppliers and staff.
Least not sleepless nights
Suggest you all think hard before the next quip.
If your Gung Ho on here being anonymous, but think you have a point, then let's meet face to face !!
Imagine your bank,
Rumour, "a new investment at such a rate" is of interest.
Rumour " bank had bad investors and is going bust, no funds in it accounts" this would have a major detrimental effect as people are liking to avoid it, based on zero facts!!
Its employees would be very effected.
It's the same with an airline.
Back it up or shut up if it is of major standing.
A new route is of interest.
International companies being brought/sold/merged/bust need some substantiation.
It will have major effects on finance, suppliers and staff.
Least not sleepless nights
Suggest you all think hard before the next quip.
If your Gung Ho on here being anonymous, but think you have a point, then let's meet face to face !!
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: BHX
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Could well be if monarch do merge or are taken over by a major player it could be a postive outcome for all
It cannot be a shock that greybull will sell if a suitable bider is found ,
There in the business of buying failing companies , Turning them around and selling them on at a profit , No one i know in monarch expected anything else from the outset.
I think a key issue is has monarchs amazing return to healthy profit in a very short time got more to do with having great fortune in the fact they could not hedge their fuel costs and reaped the rewards from the specactular crash in prices rather than anything else
Finaly lets not forget monarch have a very succesfull and reputable aircraft engineering division Which could be a big plus in going forward
I believe monarch are a boeing gold care maintenence provider and are already looking after norweigian at LGW and carrying out C checks on their 787 fleet at their new BHX hangar
Given their growth plans i guess looking at future maintenance requirments is a big issue
It cannot be a shock that greybull will sell if a suitable bider is found ,
There in the business of buying failing companies , Turning them around and selling them on at a profit , No one i know in monarch expected anything else from the outset.
I think a key issue is has monarchs amazing return to healthy profit in a very short time got more to do with having great fortune in the fact they could not hedge their fuel costs and reaped the rewards from the specactular crash in prices rather than anything else
Finaly lets not forget monarch have a very succesfull and reputable aircraft engineering division Which could be a big plus in going forward
I believe monarch are a boeing gold care maintenence provider and are already looking after norweigian at LGW and carrying out C checks on their 787 fleet at their new BHX hangar
Given their growth plans i guess looking at future maintenance requirments is a big issue
Last edited by Brigantee; 30th Mar 2016 at 06:13.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: uk
Age: 85
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bridantee You still have NOT answered my question or is it just your thoughts without any true facts ,I would really like to know
CSman [old timer, DC3 ,Viscount, BAC1-11, B737, B747 100/200/400]
CSman [old timer, DC3 ,Viscount, BAC1-11, B737, B747 100/200/400]
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Gateshead, UK
Age: 25
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Monarch Bases 2016
Hi all,
How are monarch's aircraft allocated around their bases this summer? And which are their bases? LBA, MAN, BHX, LTN and LGW? I haven't missed any have I?
Cheers, any help is greatly appreciated 😊
How are monarch's aircraft allocated around their bases this summer? And which are their bases? LBA, MAN, BHX, LTN and LGW? I haven't missed any have I?
Cheers, any help is greatly appreciated 😊
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Solihull
Age: 60
Posts: 3,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
BHX
EK77WNCL
BHX will be 9 based from 17 June with a split of 6 x A321 and 3 x A320.
Currently there are usually around 7 active of which 5 are A321's and 2 x A320 with often a spare A321 around although not sure over the Easter period. Tuesday still sees only around 3 or 4 flights in total.
May should see 8 based with 6 x A321 and 2 x A320 but not all 8 are active all week.
The 9th aircraft was quoted as an A320 which is backed up by the seat-maps. First Friday in July shows A321's in the morning to ALC, FAO, FNC, AGP, MAH and VCE with the A320's to BCN, LIS & FCO. In the afternoon A321's to HER, LCA, AGP, NCE, PMI & TFS with the 320's to DLM, GIB and MAD. There are night flights to Palma and Malaga as well with the PMI an A320 but did not check AGP.
Pete
BHX will be 9 based from 17 June with a split of 6 x A321 and 3 x A320.
Currently there are usually around 7 active of which 5 are A321's and 2 x A320 with often a spare A321 around although not sure over the Easter period. Tuesday still sees only around 3 or 4 flights in total.
May should see 8 based with 6 x A321 and 2 x A320 but not all 8 are active all week.
The 9th aircraft was quoted as an A320 which is backed up by the seat-maps. First Friday in July shows A321's in the morning to ALC, FAO, FNC, AGP, MAH and VCE with the A320's to BCN, LIS & FCO. In the afternoon A321's to HER, LCA, AGP, NCE, PMI & TFS with the 320's to DLM, GIB and MAD. There are night flights to Palma and Malaga as well with the PMI an A320 but did not check AGP.
Pete
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Warrington
Age: 74
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Monarch at Manchester - Summer 2016 slots held.
ACL report for start of summer 2016 only shows 2 additional slots per peak week over those for last year - 228 versus 226. The full season ATM are 6,473 which us 100 up on 2015.