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Old 15th Apr 2012, 10:17
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Egon;

I would suggest that the current management has little to do with PB, hence this debate!
Lets hope that IR is the man to sort out the mess.
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BHX to PFO 22 apr

First Monarch flight next sunday, on A321 according to seat plan.I have read somewhere about leather seats, would this be ex GBairways/ EZY examples?
Also if they are is the IFE used? Thanks In Advance.
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Blighty Pilot and Manthrust................I agree!!
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Old 15th Apr 2012, 18:56
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Egon,

Are you suggesting if I had an incident, people would come on here with little or no experience, qualifications or knowledge of the subject matter and tell us all how I should have acted?!

Oh yes, I forgot................that was exactly the point I was making earlier..............I am the first to be keen to listen to opinions about any subject, but only from individuals with first hand experience of that particular role.......too many armchair experts in this world for me
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Old 15th Apr 2012, 19:58
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T2. The art of pprune is to separate the few strands of wheat from the considerable chaff. That's all.
Let's all hope the new regime really can turn things around. Too many mortgages and pensions depend on it.
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Old 15th Apr 2012, 20:03
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I have read somewhere about leather seats, would this be ex GBairways/ EZY examples
Two of the a321's used to ahve them when they were based at MAN because they only had 207 seats. They now have 214 like the rest of the A321's and the seats are no longer leather.

Shame really I liked the leather ones you used to be able to turn the headrest
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Old 15th Apr 2012, 20:50
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If you are going for only a week you might get IFE both ways, but no IFE after 1st May.
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You are stopping IFE? I remember when we used to get it on MAN-AGP flights back in 2008 or somewhere near then
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 04:23
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Yes & No.
My understanding is, no IFE on the narrow body fleets after May 1st.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 06:35
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Who is making the decisions at Monarch? That seems like a very strange step in the wrong direction.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 06:54
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Aprox $25000 for the rights to play a movie. X Kgs of electrical equipment to be carried around which leads to extra fuel burn (fuel is v v expensive!). The vast majority of pax have their own source of in flight entertainment these days (iPad etc) and I can therefore understand why the IFE has been offloaded to save costs rather than cater for the minority!

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Surely if you want to differentiate yourselves from easyJet and Ryanair (who are both big competitors on many Monarch short haul routes) and offer a superior product, at a higher price, surely IFE is imperative?
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 07:59
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Not just MON doing this. I believe TOM dropped IFE for flights under 7 hours (all narrowbody fleets). They also dropped pax meals in favour of on board fast food on same flights.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 11:13
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IFE on short haul, unless PTV AVOD, is not viable anymore. The only other option for Monarch is to offer what EZY are trialling on longer distance routes out of MAN and LGW. They are trialling handheld devices similar to the LS ones at MAN and some sort of tablet out of LGW.

Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 18:06
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I have read somewhere about leather seats, would this be ex GBairways/ EZY examples
My mistake I was told today that the two new A320's have them
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 21:18
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One problem is that not all of the Airbus A320/321 have IFE fitted, so IFE can not be imperative.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 22:37
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Taking IFE off the shorter routes looks like the only sane decision on here for the last few pages. It's a no brainer to remove it given the amounts you have to pay for the movie rights and various different licences to screen programming and play music.

But I still doubt this will suffice to offset some of the other madness.

And New T2 Office, I know nothing about football and don't comment on it. But I do know a few things about airlines and do feel qualified to comment on those. As Egon Maybach suggests, blindly assuming that your leaders are omniscient can be very dangerous. There should be enough examples from the safety side of the aviation industry to convince you that the Captain isn't always right.
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 10:47
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F.Rider........I see if I select 'find more posts' from yourself, you do indeed know a few things about airlines, I note your wisdom is available on the BMI forum, also Monarch, BMIbaby 2, Aer Lingus regional, Bournemouth airport, BA pilots pondering the BMI proposal, Alderney airport, Exeter/Norwich routes, Flybe, Thomas Cook, Fastjet, BA, Easyjet, Leeds airport, Belfast airport to name just a few!!!

I assume you must work in a consultancy capacity for these organisations........If not, you should, as it sounds like you could earn a handsome salary by helping these outfits in their hour of financial need
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 16:06
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T2, are you one of those people who complains about all the rubbish on telly, but will never turn it off.
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 15:25
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Monarch Airbus number 10

Recently a A320/321 passed low overhead and i read a large number 10 on the bottom of the fuselage between the main undercarriage
I was wondering what it related to....... if anyone can help i would be grateful
thanks
Simon
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