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Old 7th Apr 2015, 20:52
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It seems there may be a disgruntled employee or two posting on here. If they don't like the company then they should leave.. Although I guess they may do forcefully eventually given the social media policy..
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 00:19
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I have just checked and apparently all those on here bad mouthing Jet2 actually dont have to fly on them! Its not compulsary. Who knew? So maybe you can leave this airline alone to get on with the job they are doing very well of providing cheap flights and holidays for lots of happy customers in the North of England. I am one of them. Never had a bad experience with them, and i don't go crying to my mum if i don't have a brand new plane to fly on.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 05:59
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Wow. Seems to be a couple of different new posters using very similar language posting about the sheer amazement of this wonder company who has similar margins, growth and LFs of their competitors despite being a summer only operation.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 07:05
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Shouldnt that be 'essentially summer only' ?
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 07:18
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G-CELW back in service on the mail services. The old girl has life in her yet!
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 07:25
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For every jet2 knocker there is a fan but the Dart Group's financial results are available here:
http://www.dartgroup.co.uk/uploadedF...terim-2014.pdf


So everybody can decide for themselves
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 07:36
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I do apologise, 'essentially summer only' would be more accurate.

I've looked at their figures and compared them to U2 and FR and I must admit I don't see what's so stellar about LS's performance. This is despite the other two having a much more comprehensive winter programs along with the hit in LFs, yields and winter losses that they both incur.

From what I can see there are twice as many seat only pax as there are holidays passengers which seems at odds with what I've read on here and would give weight to the arguement that LS is a LCC who sells some seats to the in house holiday company and that it is not a holiday airline and comparing them to U2/FR and not TOM/TCX would be more appropriate.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Can someone spell it out for me? Is LS 'highly profitable' as has been mentioned here previous? It seems U2 manage to make an extra 1,000,000 per aircraft more than LS and I would suspect FR even more.

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Old 8th Apr 2015, 09:03
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Hmm...Airlines are like types of coffee or beer..entirely subjective views will be found. However in the case of one or two, the vitriol tends on the side of having received their PFO letters either recently or in the past...

Park your chips guys..thanks
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 09:20
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There are (at least) three types of traffic on Jet 2--- seat only passengers booked directly, Jet 2 Holidays passengers and passengers carried for other tour operators--look at the brochures. My guess is that all three categories are important components of their business model.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 12:29
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Lets not forget Royal Mail, which I guess is a valuable revenue stream and keeps things ticking over during the quieter months.. It also explains the age of some of the fleet due to the QC requirements..
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 12:56
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Yes, the average fleet age is held down a little because of the QC's, but they're unique, and you're right pug, it is something to keep going during the quiet winter period. Thums up to dreamair's comment further up ^.

In response to mockingjay, Jet2 and Jet2holidays run in unison, and on the same booking system. Jet2 don't sell seats to Jet2holidays, but as they run on the exact same booking system, it means that Flight Only and Holiday pax figures can appear rather different to other airlines.

The difference between LS and EZY is that EZY are now a European wide operation, which means they operate flights from foreign airports to foreign airports, just like FR. Jet2's business model is somewhat different, in the way that they only fly UK-DESTINATION-UK, and not sectors within Europe. Because they only from the UK, they really only serve passengers going on holiday, or maybe a few from Spain wanting to come to the UK. EZY serve a whole European market, and because their business model, like FR, is purely LCC, they tend to earn that bit more.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 13:03
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In response to mockingjay, Jet2 and Jet2holidays run in unison, and on the same booking system. Jet2 don't sell seats to Jet2holidays, but as they run on the exact same booking system, it means that Flight Only and Holiday pax figures can appear rather different to other airlines.
Not true. Jet2 appears as a flight supplier in Jet2holidays booking system with an equal "status" to the suppliers of the airport transfers and the hotels or apartments. Flight only bookings do not appear anywhere in the booking system used by Jet2holidays and changes made to a flight booking belonging to a Jet2holidays package in Jet2's booking system do not feed back to Jet2holiday's booking system.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 13:17
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Jet2_738

You earlier claimed that Jet2 and Jet2holidays are 'highly profitable'. Given the margins and the figures I think 'in line with the competition' would be a lot more realistic. No?

Perhaps once easyJet Holidays has been operating and we have figures for them it will be possible to make a fairer comparison. Same with Ryanair who I believe are starting their own holiday operation at some point.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 13:25
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Give Mockingjay a cigar! Who has sussed that this company actually isn't that great success it's "bigged" up to be by those stuck on Planet Jet2 (I don't include all the Airliner World readers as it's constantly proved they know nothing!) if you look deeper into the numbers! And just where does it go from here?!? Oh I'm sure Jet2_738 will come up with a theory...

It's certainly not a great success when considering employee satisfaction...
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 14:51
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What I'd really like to know is having never flown on Jet2 before, we've taken the plunge and booked one of their "Jet2 Holidays", from Ncl to Pisa (Florence) for August.

The only downside is the age of the aircraft that is really giving me cause for concern. Making me nervous a tad.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 15:32
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But the share price keeps going up, so someone somewhere thinks they are doing the right thing! If only they would get rid of some of the deadwood then things might get really good.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 16:29
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sean Dillon


you appear to have a big chip on your shoulder re jet2,i have flown with them right from the start from L.B.A.and never had a problem with them,the old aircraft are not a problem to me,my family have 3 jet2 holidays booked with them again plus my flight only there holidays are good we have never had any problems at all,easy jet and ryan air are both know starting to try and keep up by selling holidays.some of the things you have posted on PPRuNe about jet2 could be classed as slander,they as a company are not short of cash as my share dividend is ok,just let them get on with job and stop griping.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 17:22
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Tell you what Snowman, its must be galling for him when the likes of you and me spend our hard earned on buying flights and holidays from Jet2..Guess he doesn`t take rejection well
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 17:44
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I'm afraid Brigantree is correct, and all you Airliner World readers and spotters who know nothing about this delightful organisation, the fleet will remain old, tired and knackered until such time as some major investment is added! Jet2 has no money...the best thing for its future, remove the CEO and the nasty culture it's created...

Summer 2015 is going to be expensive! This company is a "ticking clock"...

Have you ever read such rubbish?

The CEO ( who owns 40% by the way) has built this company up with a very good team and is well on his way to creating a billion pound company.
He has given millions of customers a choice from up north, and mostly great service.
As a Director myself it does annoy me that people within the company attack it.
i suggest you Man up and see HR or go see Philip ( i can get you an appointment) and clear the air.
I say well done to all those loyal staff at Dart group who do try hard to provide a good service.:
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 18:03
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Nice one CT, but I suspect there'lll be no spine from the mouthy ones.
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