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Over on Flybe's Facebook page they are getting a lot of stick about the S16 routes being cancelled in October, customers having to book elsewhere and now announcing after all that they are being re-introduced. I have a lot of sympathy for these people and you do have to wonder what on earth Flybe's long term strategy is. Flybe's initial response once again was the standard 'due to lack of demand', well forgive me if i am wrong but thousands of regular customers flying these Med routes have been doing so for many years and its now down to 'overwhelming demand and popularity' that they have been re-instated. Bottom line is these destinations have always been regularly filled to near if not full capacity and if they continue to confuse and upset the general public, I say let Volotea have a go at running the Med scene!!
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Sunshine Routes
It would appear there will be a Embraer E195 departure from Southampton each day of the week July-October at 09:00. To me this would imply one flies down from another base, but as far as I can see none arrive?
MALAGA | 01-Jul-16 - 28-Oct-16
Operates every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday
BE1677 SOU-AGP 09:00-12:40
BE1678 AGP-SOU 13:20-15:00
FARO | 02-Jul-16 - 27-Oct-16
Operates every Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday
BE1771 SOU-FAO 09:00-11:40
BE1772 FAO-SOU 12:20-14:55
An additional note, it would appear there are about 10x Flybe aircraft based at Southampton this summer - is this the most they've ever had?
MALAGA | 01-Jul-16 - 28-Oct-16
Operates every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday
BE1677 SOU-AGP 09:00-12:40
BE1678 AGP-SOU 13:20-15:00
FARO | 02-Jul-16 - 27-Oct-16
Operates every Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday
BE1771 SOU-FAO 09:00-11:40
BE1772 FAO-SOU 12:20-14:55
An additional note, it would appear there are about 10x Flybe aircraft based at Southampton this summer - is this the most they've ever had?
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I suspect you'll find there'll be a 195 doing an 07:00 departure from Manchester to SOU and then going onwards to do the Sun routes with a Dash 8 running in the opposite direction from SOU to MAN early mornings
I think 9 based is the previous BEE max. at SOU.
It is a bit of a mystery as to where this 195 is going to come from, but the update that the airline gave re. Project Blackbird* in November included the following statement:
3 will operate at Birmingham and Manchester airports
– Two to provide additional capacity on high demand routes
– One to provide EJet standby cover for the 19 EJets flying
This implies there is a spare/standby a/c, but to only fly it for 5 to 6 hours a day out of SOU only makes sense if otherwise it was sat at MAN, BHX or wherever not earning anything at all.
*Blackbird was the name given by Flybe to the Project aimed at mitigating the financial liability of the remaining 195's by getting deals done with specific airports (eg, CWL, DSA, EXT/NWI) to get them flying.
It is a bit of a mystery as to where this 195 is going to come from, but the update that the airline gave re. Project Blackbird* in November included the following statement:
3 will operate at Birmingham and Manchester airports
– Two to provide additional capacity on high demand routes
– One to provide EJet standby cover for the 19 EJets flying
This implies there is a spare/standby a/c, but to only fly it for 5 to 6 hours a day out of SOU only makes sense if otherwise it was sat at MAN, BHX or wherever not earning anything at all.
*Blackbird was the name given by Flybe to the Project aimed at mitigating the financial liability of the remaining 195's by getting deals done with specific airports (eg, CWL, DSA, EXT/NWI) to get them flying.
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Volotea have extended their service to Palma, it now operates on Sundays only during October and finishes on the 30th. Hopefully this is a sign of good forward bookings, especially since they now have 5-7 weekly Flybe flights to compete with, although on the dates I checked Volotea were undercutting them, and the flight time difference of 35 mins vs the Q400 is a plus point.
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There is only 1 flight being operated to Malaga now by BA EMB 190 on Saturday Aug 6 as to the original 5 published earlier by Omega holidays
Might be due to Flybe returning to the route
Palma looks busy this year now with Evolope A320 , Volotea B 717 and Flybe DHC 8 now making up to 12 flights a week !
Might be due to Flybe returning to the route
Palma looks busy this year now with Evolope A320 , Volotea B 717 and Flybe DHC 8 now making up to 12 flights a week !
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gkmeech...you really do talk garbage...yes, you've told us that Flybe have lost your custom to LHR (enjoy the drive) but given that the vast majority of summer bookings are yet to happen it's doubtful that they have lost a "shedload" of passengers.....unless you're being literal of course 
I do not think he is being over-dramatic in the slightest. On routes of this nature, it is not uncommon to be 20-30% sold for the summer season at this stage in January. Flybe will therefore have lost 20-30% of the potential custom for these routes by going on sale late. The real question is whether the remaining 70-80% who they have the opportunity to capture will provide sufficient volume to sustain the services being provided.
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With Flybe offering less seats to Palma on the DHC 8 compared to last year on the EMB 195 I shouldn't think it will be a problem filling the aircraft.
The price difference between Volotea and Flybe to Palma is incredible and I only hope that the former make a success on their new operation from SOU and hopefully expand for summer 2017.
The fact that Flybe are using a DHC 8 on the Palma route in 2016 may actually deter passengers from booking especially as regulars on the route have been used to flying the EMB 195 and even more so now Volotea are around offering a jet service and undercutting the extremely high fares that Flybe charge.
The price difference between Volotea and Flybe to Palma is incredible and I only hope that the former make a success on their new operation from SOU and hopefully expand for summer 2017.
The fact that Flybe are using a DHC 8 on the Palma route in 2016 may actually deter passengers from booking especially as regulars on the route have been used to flying the EMB 195 and even more so now Volotea are around offering a jet service and undercutting the extremely high fares that Flybe charge.
Blue Islands to become Flybe franchise
News today re. the above:
Channel Islands Blue Islands airline to operate as Flybe - BBC News
Not one that I expected, but one way for BEE to deal with the competition they have faced on SOU-GCI.
It is of course a bigger story than just that, but the above is main element that relates to SOU, along presumably with the benefit that people from the CI will be able to "hub" through SOU to other parts of the BEE network on a single booking.
Channel Islands Blue Islands airline to operate as Flybe - BBC News
Not one that I expected, but one way for BEE to deal with the competition they have faced on SOU-GCI.
It is of course a bigger story than just that, but the above is main element that relates to SOU, along presumably with the benefit that people from the CI will be able to "hub" through SOU to other parts of the BEE network on a single booking.
Travel Mole reports:
Flybe launches two new routes from Southampton
Flybe launches two new French routes from Southampton this summer.
From July 3 to September 25 it will fly three times a week to Biarritz.
It will also fly three times a week to Toulon Hyeres from July 2 to September 12.
In addition, flights to Bastia on the French island of Corsica will return for the peak summer travel on Sundays.
This route will operate from May 22 to September 18.
Flybe launches two new French routes from Southampton this summer.
From July 3 to September 25 it will fly three times a week to Biarritz.
It will also fly three times a week to Toulon Hyeres from July 2 to September 12.
In addition, flights to Bastia on the French island of Corsica will return for the peak summer travel on Sundays.
This route will operate from May 22 to September 18.
