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Good to see Cork return, also good to see another airline at SOU, hopefully the management have realised by now why it doesn't appear to be wise to rely on Flybe to such a significant extent. The route starts in March, presumably at the start of the summer season.
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KLM 2x daily starting May 16 (Fokker 70)
Departing Amsterdam 08:35 – Arriving in Southampton 08:45
Departing Southampton 09:20 – Arriving in Amsterdam 11:30
Departing Amsterdam 16:40 – Arriving in Southampton 16:50
Departing Southampton 17:25 – Arriving in Amsterdam 19:35
Departing Amsterdam 08:35 – Arriving in Southampton 08:45
Departing Southampton 09:20 – Arriving in Amsterdam 11:30
Departing Amsterdam 16:40 – Arriving in Southampton 16:50
Departing Southampton 17:25 – Arriving in Amsterdam 19:35
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No bad thing but I was expecting the announcement to be in relation to the sun routes. What does this mean for BE on the AMS route? Surprised the code share wasn't working well enough for both parties.
With KLM announcing both SOU-AMS and INV-AMS today, it looks like they have finally lost their patience with their "partner" Flybe. It is hardly surprising given that Flybe has gone from a friendly codeshare partner on SOU / EXT / INV to AMS to add competing services from BHX and MAN to AMS.
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Always good to see SOU attracting more airlines but was fully expecting this announcement to be for sun routes. Malaga, Faro & Alicante attract foot fall through the airport of 100k per annum and just cannot understand why these have been dropped so readily!
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A little of a bit of anticlimax with the KLM announcement ,I doubt whether there will much of a increase in pax numbers for the Amsterdam route.I guess everyone hoped for the Sun routes announcement, that would have been great news with the potential of a big drop off in pax numbers for the airport if it doesn't happen.
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Seeing SOU is on a roll at the moment my wish list would be as follows.
Brussels Airlines to Brussels (possibly in cooperation with Flybe)
Easyjet to Geneva
Eurowings to Cologne, Stuttgart
Hop/Air France to Paris CDG
Lufthansa CityLine to Frankfurt
Swiss to Zurich
Volotea to Faro, Florence, Milan, Nice, Strasbourg, Venice
Vueling to Alicante, Barcelona (reinstated), Ibiza, Malaga
Plus both Thomas Cook and Thomson using their own aircraft on certain flights
Maybe I might be right on one of them!
Southampton Airport.......Build new stands, extend the taxiway and runway and they will come!
Brussels Airlines to Brussels (possibly in cooperation with Flybe)
Easyjet to Geneva
Eurowings to Cologne, Stuttgart
Hop/Air France to Paris CDG
Lufthansa CityLine to Frankfurt
Swiss to Zurich
Volotea to Faro, Florence, Milan, Nice, Strasbourg, Venice
Vueling to Alicante, Barcelona (reinstated), Ibiza, Malaga
Plus both Thomas Cook and Thomson using their own aircraft on certain flights
Maybe I might be right on one of them!
Southampton Airport.......Build new stands, extend the taxiway and runway and they will come!
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A little of a bit of anticlimax with the KLM announcement ,I doubt whether there will much of a increase in pax numbers for the Amsterdam route.I guess everyone hoped for the Sun routes announcement, that would have been great news with the potential of a big drop off in pax numbers for the airport if it doesn't happen.
SOU will have approx. 200 additional seats on a daily basis once the E90s have replaced the F70s. If BE indeed stops AMS, it remains to be seen if they will pull the SOU-based DH4. Even if so, with Flybe's international routes coming and going and Flybe having a change of heart reather frequently, a robust hub link by a blue chip carrier like KLM certainly is extremely valuable for the airport. Plus: Given that the alternative Sun routes would not have seen A321s for obvious reasons, but same-sized DH4/E9X aircraft , a better deal passenger-wise would have required something like 20-30 additional sun flights per week alone. Not very realisitic in my opinion...
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RW20 - I honestly think in the whole of the country you're the only person who would feel an 'anti-climax' at the news KLM were coming to town, every other airport who doesn't have them would bend over for them I'm sure ...
It's great news and provides stability and global connections, the sun routes will come and go.
It's great news and provides stability and global connections, the sun routes will come and go.
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Cumbrianboy I'm sure the KLM link will be invaluable to the airport and businesses. However the airport needs to balance the needs of the local catchment area and that means offering Sun routes which are and have been very popular. If the the airport could embrace this ( and the necessary runway extension/stand issues) the airport would be really flourishing. After all it has all the transport links !.
However the airport needs to balance the needs of the local catchment area and that means offering Sun routes which are and have been very popular
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Sun Routes
I think SOU has quite unique circumstances when it comes to the sun routes. There is definitely a market, after all, the city is located within a conurbation of 1.5 million people, many of whom are very affluent and therefore provide a relatively large demand for such routes - even at a bit of a 'premium price fare' needed with the use of smaller aircraft. Most of the previous sun routes were very well patronised, even in the quiet 'off season' times. Even my local postman used the Malaga route half a dozen times a year to go and play golf!
The problem is finding an operator with the right equipment for the job!
There's no getting away from it, the emb 195 is the ideal piece of kit for the rather unusual and particular set of circumstances at SOU, and few operators have these to hand.
Volotea with their B717s would also be perfect, but as they don't have bases in Faro, Malaga or Alicante, it would involve some quite complicated scheduling to provide sun routes to and from SOU. The only hope really I think is a change of heart by Flybe, or Volotea basing a 717 at SOU for the season - both of which I feel are very unlikely.
The problem is finding an operator with the right equipment for the job!
There's no getting away from it, the emb 195 is the ideal piece of kit for the rather unusual and particular set of circumstances at SOU, and few operators have these to hand.
Volotea with their B717s would also be perfect, but as they don't have bases in Faro, Malaga or Alicante, it would involve some quite complicated scheduling to provide sun routes to and from SOU. The only hope really I think is a change of heart by Flybe, or Volotea basing a 717 at SOU for the season - both of which I feel are very unlikely.
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KLM is a plus and hopefully will be more reliable than flymaybe. People are forgetting that KLM have code shared on BE's AMS flight for a while now so the world wide connections have always been available. This is nothing new.
In terms of the sun routes for them to work you need a 737/a319 sized plane and no restrictions. SOU need to pull their finger out and spend some money airside. Wishful thinking though.
In terms of the sun routes for them to work you need a 737/a319 sized plane and no restrictions. SOU need to pull their finger out and spend some money airside. Wishful thinking though.
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2014 sun route numbers
Just looking at last year's figures and it's ironic to see that the Palma route, which was used by 24,864 passengers in 2014 will still see 5 flights per week in 2016 - 4 x Volotea, (2 scheduled + 2 charter) plus 1 x Evelop.
In 2014, Alicante attracted 42,821 and Malaga 42,352.
85,173 passengers x say, £125.00 is £10,646,652 - so I still think that an operator will come forward at some point and 'give it a punt'.
In 2014, Alicante attracted 42,821 and Malaga 42,352.
85,173 passengers x say, £125.00 is £10,646,652 - so I still think that an operator will come forward at some point and 'give it a punt'.