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'incidentally, the capt made the decision to carry on with the bald nose wheel, the canvas was visible underneath.'
If you don't consider bald tyres unsafe, then you obviously know as little about aviation as your original post suggested!
for your information - the 737 maintenance manual allows the A/C to be released with canvas showing on the tyres!!
'incidentally, the capt made the decision to carry on with the bald nose wheel, the canvas was visible underneath.'
If you don't consider bald tyres unsafe, then you obviously know as little about aviation as your original post suggested!
for your information - the 737 maintenance manual allows the A/C to be released with canvas showing on the tyres!!
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Yes I can't believe airlineroute.net have only picked up on that today, I posted it here on 1/9/2012 and it had been missing from GDS at least a few days before that.
I notice that they are often very slow with some airports and too quick with others and often have to retract what they have posted.
Ryanair
Christmas extra's now building with Arrecife, Las Palmas and Tenerife.
ACE is four Wednesdays in a row, LPA three and TFS one all away based aircraft but better than nothing. FUE remains just weekly!!!
Forgot that the cut afternoon Dublin on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays also operate over the Christmas & New Year period.
Yes I can't believe airlineroute.net have only picked up on that today, I posted it here on 1/9/2012 and it had been missing from GDS at least a few days before that.
I notice that they are often very slow with some airports and too quick with others and often have to retract what they have posted.
Ryanair
Christmas extra's now building with Arrecife, Las Palmas and Tenerife.
ACE is four Wednesdays in a row, LPA three and TFS one all away based aircraft but better than nothing. FUE remains just weekly!!!
Forgot that the cut afternoon Dublin on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays also operate over the Christmas & New Year period.
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planeaddict - I wouldn't hold your breath on any of these for the immediate future although none are entirely off the BHX radar:
QR to DOH - has been confirmed but sadly not when....QR waiting for 787 deliveries and I can't imagine that BHX is top of the list even when they do get eventually delivered. But it would seem that QR ops are on the (distant?) horizon
ORD - again long wished for by BHX, perhaps a service could start after runway extension finished?
India - as has been documented on here, ATQ should be a route from BHX but it seems to be the long haul poisoned chalice. Traditional low yields I guess make this a tricky one to work. If QR do start they would offer a BHX-DOH-ATQ connection routing albeit only a 320 from DOH-ATQ which could help satisfy demand complementing T5 existing services via ASB.
Air Blue - sadly just a spotter fantasist who hacked the Air Blue website, obviously desperate to see an A340 at BHX! However I could see them starting as they did at MAN with the 320, they didn't flat out deny they wouldn't do the route when they made a statement regarding the website hack.
QR to DOH - has been confirmed but sadly not when....QR waiting for 787 deliveries and I can't imagine that BHX is top of the list even when they do get eventually delivered. But it would seem that QR ops are on the (distant?) horizon
ORD - again long wished for by BHX, perhaps a service could start after runway extension finished?
India - as has been documented on here, ATQ should be a route from BHX but it seems to be the long haul poisoned chalice. Traditional low yields I guess make this a tricky one to work. If QR do start they would offer a BHX-DOH-ATQ connection routing albeit only a 320 from DOH-ATQ which could help satisfy demand complementing T5 existing services via ASB.
Air Blue - sadly just a spotter fantasist who hacked the Air Blue website, obviously desperate to see an A340 at BHX! However I could see them starting as they did at MAN with the 320, they didn't flat out deny they wouldn't do the route when they made a statement regarding the website hack.
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Re Qatar..to make matters worse their first 787s deliveries are now further delayed, as they are not happy about the poor quality of the interiors being fitted..
who knows what extra delay that will have on our supposed new service
Nigel
Re Qatar..to make matters worse their first 787s deliveries are now further delayed, as they are not happy about the poor quality of the interiors being fitted..
who knows what extra delay that will have on our supposed new service
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On the MON thread it's reported that their BHX/MAN/LGW-MXP flights are all ending but nothing confirmed. Must admit I expected Flybe to be the first to axe MXP in the face of FR launching Bergamo this winter. Hopefully MON could look into launching PSA from BHX; and perhaps LIS next summer.
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ust admit I expected Flybe to be the first to axe MXP in the face of FR launching Bergamo this winter
Now as for the long term plans at BHX, I can't even get a bus or train to make a 6:40 flight this morning - from the WEST side of Coventry. Now do the fantasists still think people are going to get a train up from London, using a service not even built yet that doesn't even go straight to the terminal?
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jabird I have the same problem travelling from Leamington to catch an 0700 flight in two weeks, I am staying at the etap the night before. It's a problem systematic to a lot of UK airports, public transport doesn't operate early or late enough for flight schedules. London must be the only major world city to have a subway network that closes at half midnight until 5am!! Ridiculous.
In other news, rumour has it that PIA are to axe MAN and AMS flights as part of a route review and a tie up with TK. PIA have hotly denied this and flights are bookable on these routes over winter. The PIA press release does however ominously mention that all routes are being reviewed for profitability - does anyone have any reliable info on how BHX performs for PIA? I worry that if they were considering a shut down at MAN then BHX would go too? They have been pretty loyal to BHX on the whole so it can't be a bad route for them?
In other news, rumour has it that PIA are to axe MAN and AMS flights as part of a route review and a tie up with TK. PIA have hotly denied this and flights are bookable on these routes over winter. The PIA press release does however ominously mention that all routes are being reviewed for profitability - does anyone have any reliable info on how BHX performs for PIA? I worry that if they were considering a shut down at MAN then BHX would go too? They have been pretty loyal to BHX on the whole so it can't be a bad route for them?
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You never know what to believe from PIA. From what I can tell the loads are always good. The way things stand now I'd be inclined to believe MAN would be more important to them as it's where all their JFK flights transit through. However their were rumours a while back that they were planning on axing all North American flights, then a few months later it was reported they were actually going to increase them and re-instate IAH so who knows?
But on the plus side BHX doesn't have the competition from Air Blue which have just upgraded, or very soon will, MAN ops to an A340.
Monarch
BHX/MAN/LGW-MXP all ending 03/11/12
Qatar
Fingers crossed the rumours of QR joining oneworld are false; we all know oneworld don't do BHX!
You never know what to believe from PIA. From what I can tell the loads are always good. The way things stand now I'd be inclined to believe MAN would be more important to them as it's where all their JFK flights transit through. However their were rumours a while back that they were planning on axing all North American flights, then a few months later it was reported they were actually going to increase them and re-instate IAH so who knows?
But on the plus side BHX doesn't have the competition from Air Blue which have just upgraded, or very soon will, MAN ops to an A340.
Monarch
BHX/MAN/LGW-MXP all ending 03/11/12
Qatar
Fingers crossed the rumours of QR joining oneworld are false; we all know oneworld don't do BHX!
Fingers crossed the rumours of QR joining oneworld are false; we all know oneworld don't do BHX!
Arabian Aerospace - Qatar tipped to join Oneworld alliance
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It would make perfect sense - with QF having got into bed with EK and the Gulf proving ever more popular to make transit connections on to Oz, Asia etc Oneworld need QR, BA cannot effectively compete for all this traffic by itself against the might of the Gulf carriers. I think this means the 'will they won't they come to BHX' QR rumour will now drag on for even longer!
(Reuters) - Qatar Airways has no plans to join the oneworld airline alliance, its Chief Executive Akbar al-Baker said on Sunday, dismissing reports that the airline had become the newest member of the group as "rumor."
Asked if the carrier would join oneworld, which includes British Airways, owned by IAG (ICAG.L), Baker said: "No, we will not. It's all rumors."
He was speaking on the sidelines of a conference in the UAE capital.
Alliances were set up in the 1990s to help airlines take advantage of each other's marketing and traffic in the face of tightly controlled bilateral traffic rights, but so far the Gulf carriers have refrained from joining as they build big networks.
Asked if the carrier would join oneworld, which includes British Airways, owned by IAG (ICAG.L), Baker said: "No, we will not. It's all rumors."
He was speaking on the sidelines of a conference in the UAE capital.
Alliances were set up in the 1990s to help airlines take advantage of each other's marketing and traffic in the face of tightly controlled bilateral traffic rights, but so far the Gulf carriers have refrained from joining as they build big networks.
Flybe summer 2013
Along with the French regional seasonal routes (Avignon, Brest, Bergerac, La Rochelle and Perpignan), Dubrovnik also seems to have disappeared in Flybe's summer 2013 schedule.
Is this a definite loss, or a "may appear on sale in a month or so" ?
Is this a definite loss, or a "may appear on sale in a month or so" ?
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I think the same happened this year, French seasonal routes only operated for 6 weeks or so from mid July and were released later than first summer release. I should imagine that with the fair to middling load factors on these routes they are under review - if they don't operate I assume there will be quite a bit of airframe downtime for the BHX base?
DBV operated from May this year and appeared in the original release, perhaps ZB affected load factors this summer which is why BE haven't released it. I haven't heard that ZB are dropping any routes for next summer so hopefully they will fill the gap that BE might leave on this route.
BHX have been seen to be cosying up to bmi regional and Chicago Airport at the Routes Conference in Abu Dhabi......lets hope there are positive announcements for BHX to come from this conference.
DBV operated from May this year and appeared in the original release, perhaps ZB affected load factors this summer which is why BE haven't released it. I haven't heard that ZB are dropping any routes for next summer so hopefully they will fill the gap that BE might leave on this route.
BHX have been seen to be cosying up to bmi regional and Chicago Airport at the Routes Conference in Abu Dhabi......lets hope there are positive announcements for BHX to come from this conference.
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Rumours circulating around BHX of a 16/11 start date. Mon, Wed, Fri (I.E. the days when PIA don't operate) with A330 equipment.
Nothing on Shaheen Air's website (or should I try facebook
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Anyone heard anything?
Nothing on Shaheen Air's website (or should I try facebook
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A deluded spotter has seen that Shaheen have acquired an A330 and has made a '2+2 to make 5' rumour.......or is it indeed a bold move to launch long haul ops by a growing regional airline? They have tried the UK before, flying ISB-LBA, although it didn't last long. Can't remember why they stopped so quickly. Be nice if rumour was true to see them fly to Lahore and Peshawar instead of ISB.
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This Shaheen Air service doesn't sound like a bad idea, they need their A330s for something, but I have a feeling it is a rumour.
I'd suggest contacting Shaheen Air themselves and see if it's true.
Oh, and they stopped ISB-LBA after a few months because they ran out of aircraft (they had it on lease I believe), even though the flights were full a number of times but they brought in PIA as a replacement and it is still going strong so all is well
I'd suggest contacting Shaheen Air themselves and see if it's true.
Oh, and they stopped ISB-LBA after a few months because they ran out of aircraft (they had it on lease I believe), even though the flights were full a number of times but they brought in PIA as a replacement and it is still going strong so all is well
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I took the last flight out to DBV. I wasn't exactly expecting it to be busy, but just 4 onboard (crew said full for the return).
Any comments on why BE don't drop prices further - afaik, £56 is lowest they go on this route.
If they halved that, they might pick up a few more punters Ryanair style, ditto for other routes. Bums on seats they wouldn't otherwise have.
FR back TRS-BHX was 2/3 full, also a route which is summer only, but a few more rotations left. Not a bad LF considering this is now the off season for the Adriatic.
Any comments on why BE don't drop prices further - afaik, £56 is lowest they go on this route.
If they halved that, they might pick up a few more punters Ryanair style, ditto for other routes. Bums on seats they wouldn't otherwise have.
FR back TRS-BHX was 2/3 full, also a route which is summer only, but a few more rotations left. Not a bad LF considering this is now the off season for the Adriatic.
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Trieste summer 2013
jabird
Very appropriate timing in respect of your Trieste comments with Ryanair releasing some summer 2013 schedules.
With Krakow, Bergamo and Barcelona new for winter, if they continue Ryanair will need either to add another aircraft, add more away based flying or cancel existing routes.
Indeed that load factor for Trieste is very good for October and I am always amazed it operates as long as it does and the aircraft not switched to sunnier climes. 2012 was the forth year of Trieste and usually a critical time as fees will probably be increasing (or discounts ending) and it is often when routes sail off into the sunset. 2009 saw 12768, 2010 16204 and 2011 16825 pax . Thus far 11342 and heading to be down.
Hardly any change in the few routes released for 2013 other than Malaga moving forward to early afternoon on a Tuesday and Thursday when the aircraft sat and did nothing even in high summer during 2011 & 2012.
Malta is released for summer barely a few weeks after getting released for winter (what the....), which also happened last year. TFS and LPA are back to summer frequencies and not as per the winter reductions.
Pete
Very appropriate timing in respect of your Trieste comments with Ryanair releasing some summer 2013 schedules.
With Krakow, Bergamo and Barcelona new for winter, if they continue Ryanair will need either to add another aircraft, add more away based flying or cancel existing routes.
Indeed that load factor for Trieste is very good for October and I am always amazed it operates as long as it does and the aircraft not switched to sunnier climes. 2012 was the forth year of Trieste and usually a critical time as fees will probably be increasing (or discounts ending) and it is often when routes sail off into the sunset. 2009 saw 12768, 2010 16204 and 2011 16825 pax . Thus far 11342 and heading to be down.
Hardly any change in the few routes released for 2013 other than Malaga moving forward to early afternoon on a Tuesday and Thursday when the aircraft sat and did nothing even in high summer during 2011 & 2012.
Malta is released for summer barely a few weeks after getting released for winter (what the....), which also happened last year. TFS and LPA are back to summer frequencies and not as per the winter reductions.
Pete
Any comments on why BE don't drop prices further - afaik, £56 is lowest they go on this rout
