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BHX A380
With all the rumours of EK upgrading to a A380 to Bhx flying around recently, what are the chances of this happening? and when could we see it happen?
I appologise for any mistakes (if any) this is all new to me.
I appologise for any mistakes (if any) this is all new to me.
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BHX A380
Possibly 2013, but improvements need to be made to the taxiways by widening some of the turns and the Fire Service Cover needs to be upgraded to name just two conditions that need to be met first. A380 service is not dependent on the runway extension however.
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Turnround times:
BHX: EK39 arrives at 1235 EK40 departs 1415 = 100 mins for B77W
MAN: EK17 arrives at 1225 EK18 departs 1410 = 105 mins for A380
Not all that sure that introducing A380 at BHX will have that great an impact on the schedules unless you want to allow an extra 20 minutes if it was to be a 2-class variety with around 80 extra seats each way to process?
BHX: EK39 arrives at 1235 EK40 departs 1415 = 100 mins for B77W
MAN: EK17 arrives at 1225 EK18 departs 1410 = 105 mins for A380
Not all that sure that introducing A380 at BHX will have that great an impact on the schedules unless you want to allow an extra 20 minutes if it was to be a 2-class variety with around 80 extra seats each way to process?
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The normal EK Gate at BHX has a double airbridge. Taxiway improvements are needed for regular operations I understand on the runway exit/entrances where the turn is 90 degrees.
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Thanks for all your replies!
Surely the extension would have improved taxiways to handle such aircraft?
Also wasn't the international pier built so it could handle the A380 and similar sized aircraft?
Surely the extension would have improved taxiways to handle such aircraft?
Also wasn't the international pier built so it could handle the A380 and similar sized aircraft?
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The International Pier has 3 stands that can accommodate the A380 (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). Only one has a double airbridge, but the others can be fitted with extra airbridges if and when required.
Regarding 2 Class/3Class Ops, BHX will get the 3 Class Service next (in the UK) probably before A380 ops commence and timing will be dependant on aircraft availability.
Regarding 2 Class/3Class Ops, BHX will get the 3 Class Service next (in the UK) probably before A380 ops commence and timing will be dependant on aircraft availability.
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The international pier can handle up to seven widebodied aircraft at a time and as such I thought all the stands were the same size. As far as I'm aware though stand 54 is the only one with designated A380 markings. Both that stand and one next to it (52?) have double airbridges but like you say and extra one can be attached to the other stands if the need ever arose.
Also United have made changes to their winter timetables and as of yet BHX remains unchanged, still showing as 6 weekly, which is good news. I did notice however that MAN's new IAD service will drop to x5 weekly for the winter.
Also United have made changes to their winter timetables and as of yet BHX remains unchanged, still showing as 6 weekly, which is good news. I did notice however that MAN's new IAD service will drop to x5 weekly for the winter.
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Not as good as previous years but better than nothing.
At its height this last winter Geneva was ten a week and it is currently
released from 15/12/12 at just six weekly. No Tuesday service and the
rest is as follows: -
Monday - Friday 12.15 arrival BHX and 12.45 departure.
Saturday in 15.10 out 15.40
Sunday in 11.20 out 11.50.
Grenoble is also reduced from 2 a week to weekly
Saturday in 17.05 out 17.10
The Monday - Friday aircraft matches with the Luton schedule
chinapattern
I must admit I was half expecting EWR to drop to 5 weekly. Loads were not great this winter at times but on the positive side business was usually sold out although I realise that checking the seat map is hardly an exact science and you never know how many are upgrades and staff travel.
As for Manchester five weekly IAD is not bad and actually a net increase on United flights compared to the last two winters under Continental. The cut in Manchester - Newark last winter paid dividends on load factors, as there were very few empty seats.
Unijet
I have not heard anything specific in respect of Monarch but some good loads in general but it is Easter. Post Easter until the end of May will be interesting as Monarch have already dropped FUE for that period and reduced other Canaries routes compared to the original schedule release.
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Not as good as previous years but better than nothing.
At its height this last winter Geneva was ten a week and it is currently
released from 15/12/12 at just six weekly. No Tuesday service and the
rest is as follows: -
Monday - Friday 12.15 arrival BHX and 12.45 departure.
Saturday in 15.10 out 15.40
Sunday in 11.20 out 11.50.
Grenoble is also reduced from 2 a week to weekly
Saturday in 17.05 out 17.10
The Monday - Friday aircraft matches with the Luton schedule
chinapattern
I must admit I was half expecting EWR to drop to 5 weekly. Loads were not great this winter at times but on the positive side business was usually sold out although I realise that checking the seat map is hardly an exact science and you never know how many are upgrades and staff travel.
As for Manchester five weekly IAD is not bad and actually a net increase on United flights compared to the last two winters under Continental. The cut in Manchester - Newark last winter paid dividends on load factors, as there were very few empty seats.
Unijet
I have not heard anything specific in respect of Monarch but some good loads in general but it is Easter. Post Easter until the end of May will be interesting as Monarch have already dropped FUE for that period and reduced other Canaries routes compared to the original schedule release.
Pete
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The A380 was only payload restricted to a normal 777 load just in case there was a late switch back to the 777 for any reason. The A380 actually took off with a 12kt tailwind just so it could be photographed against the new pier. No problems with runway length to Dubai.
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Frankfurt Flights
When BMI ownership goes from DLH to IAG on 20 April what will happen to the flights op for LH to FRA (and MAN also)?
Will BD still have the same code share arrangements and vice versa....important for Star members.....do they get to stay with Star or do they have to transfer to One World etc? Not heard anything about this issue much.
Will BD still have the same code share arrangements and vice versa....important for Star members.....do they get to stay with Star or do they have to transfer to One World etc? Not heard anything about this issue much.
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United Winter Schedule
UA loads this winter were up on last year. On a daily basis UA limit the amount of upgrades in the front cabin and all in all the front cabin pax figures increased. Staff travel was mainly in the rear cabin as the US staff dont realise the charge for BF is the same (don't tell them either!!)
Keep an eye out over the summer for possible UA additional movements
Keep an eye out over the summer for possible UA additional movements
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Folks up the road on the EMA thread are speculating a return of an EZY base.....perhaps just idle chatter as no one seems to know whats going on with WW. I hope BHX have got a Plan B in the event that WW do cease operations after the summer schedules, surely that would be the time to give EZY the offer they can't refuse? Although I do hope that WW carry on as under a new owner they could find their groove again
ZB apparently launching 10 new routes this winter (I assume thats spread over all its UK bases), lets hope BHX gets a couple. My money is on SZG and perhaps SSH, although with EZY GVA reductions and uncertainty over WW maybe they will launch GVA
ZB apparently launching 10 new routes this winter (I assume thats spread over all its UK bases), lets hope BHX gets a couple. My money is on SZG and perhaps SSH, although with EZY GVA reductions and uncertainty over WW maybe they will launch GVA