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Per one seat-map website - A332 seating 343 pax & A333 342 pax
Yes an A332 holds more than an A333 - not quite believable.
However the answer is in the seat width - a mere 16.5" on the A332
compared to a whopping 18" on the A333.
3 3 3 narrow seats on the A332 and 2 4 2 on the A333 all assuming
that this information is correct of course.
Also remember Canadian Affair sold it at twice weekly for ages before
realising you really ought to have an airline in place first for both of
your flights and not just the one!!!!
To be fair to them they thought Monarch was going to do the Saturday flight but that never happened and I assume the pax were consolidated on the Tuesday service or re-directed to another airport.
Originally there was going to be a big increase in BHX-YYZ seats but
pretty much like most things at BHX these days it never quite happened.
Pete
Per one seat-map website - A332 seating 343 pax & A333 342 pax
Yes an A332 holds more than an A333 - not quite believable.
However the answer is in the seat width - a mere 16.5" on the A332
compared to a whopping 18" on the A333.
3 3 3 narrow seats on the A332 and 2 4 2 on the A333 all assuming
that this information is correct of course.
Also remember Canadian Affair sold it at twice weekly for ages before
realising you really ought to have an airline in place first for both of
your flights and not just the one!!!!
To be fair to them they thought Monarch was going to do the Saturday flight but that never happened and I assume the pax were consolidated on the Tuesday service or re-directed to another airport.
Originally there was going to be a big increase in BHX-YYZ seats but
pretty much like most things at BHX these days it never quite happened.
Pete
I'm not normally up to asking things like this, but my daughter has made a booking with Thos Cook to NBE outbound 28.9.11, returning 12.10.11, supposedly on TCX, but the flight timings she has been given don't add up!
BHX-NBE TCX4334 2015/2310 28SEP
NBE-BHX TCX4335 1055/1405 12OCT
Can anyone in the know confirm these flights are operational on those dates,
Thanks
BHX-NBE TCX4334 2015/2310 28SEP
NBE-BHX TCX4335 1055/1405 12OCT
Can anyone in the know confirm these flights are operational on those dates,
Thanks
PhilW1981:
Good question!
Normally BHX/NBE/BHX operated on TCX flight numbers would either be out and back - so DEP BHX 2015, turnaround and directly back, arriving around 0330; or possibly out in the morning on a "W" pattern (routing back to another UK airport, eg. Norwich) then arriving back into BHX late evening.
The timings and flight numbers offered up by Thos. Cook (the holiday company) seam very odd when put against such a scenario. It is possible that the return NBE/BHX arriving 14:05 may have originated in another UK airport, but then there is a slot available between say 1505 and 1915 for it to do something else, time possible for a REU, or possibly one of the Balearics, but the turn around there looks a wee bit short.
Thanks bazzab68 for your answer, I thought that at least the return might be on Nouvelair. I suppose it could be an extra for the kids half terms which must start around about then.
An extra at BHX?? What is the world coming to???
Good question!
Normally BHX/NBE/BHX operated on TCX flight numbers would either be out and back - so DEP BHX 2015, turnaround and directly back, arriving around 0330; or possibly out in the morning on a "W" pattern (routing back to another UK airport, eg. Norwich) then arriving back into BHX late evening.
The timings and flight numbers offered up by Thos. Cook (the holiday company) seam very odd when put against such a scenario. It is possible that the return NBE/BHX arriving 14:05 may have originated in another UK airport, but then there is a slot available between say 1505 and 1915 for it to do something else, time possible for a REU, or possibly one of the Balearics, but the turn around there looks a wee bit short.
Thanks bazzab68 for your answer, I thought that at least the return might be on Nouvelair. I suppose it could be an extra for the kids half terms which must start around about then.
An extra at BHX?? What is the world coming to???
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Re Canada
Re Canada.
Sadly looks like Canadian affair have dropped the idea of a second flt next year and its down as a single A330 again !
More bad news, Im told Olympic Holidays have been very happy with Sky Wings out of BHX ,and have already signed a contact with them for next year. noooooooo!
Nigel
Sadly looks like Canadian affair have dropped the idea of a second flt next year and its down as a single A330 again !
More bad news, Im told Olympic Holidays have been very happy with Sky Wings out of BHX ,and have already signed a contact with them for next year. noooooooo!
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I have sent you a PM.
However I think the simple answer is that both Thomson and Thomas Cook
change the times of a lot of their flights between September and October, as
several routes end early and some evening/night flights get moved to day.
I am fairly certain both legs will be be on Thomas Cook aircraft as the Wednesday Izmir and two Ibiza's have finished by 12 October leaving only four flights for three aircraft. The evening flight on the 28th has been moved to the morning slot which was occupied by the Ibiza service.
That is my theory, certainly for the inbound and I could be wrong but it appears that the Nouvelair starts tomorrow but only operates for three weeks before changing to a based Thomas Cook.
NBE started as 3 x TOM and 2 x TCX but ended up as 1 x TOM and 1 X TCX but at least good to see a bit of a recovery in the market.
Pete
I have sent you a PM.
However I think the simple answer is that both Thomson and Thomas Cook
change the times of a lot of their flights between September and October, as
several routes end early and some evening/night flights get moved to day.
I am fairly certain both legs will be be on Thomas Cook aircraft as the Wednesday Izmir and two Ibiza's have finished by 12 October leaving only four flights for three aircraft. The evening flight on the 28th has been moved to the morning slot which was occupied by the Ibiza service.
That is my theory, certainly for the inbound and I could be wrong but it appears that the Nouvelair starts tomorrow but only operates for three weeks before changing to a based Thomas Cook.
NBE started as 3 x TOM and 2 x TCX but ended up as 1 x TOM and 1 X TCX but at least good to see a bit of a recovery in the market.
Pete
Nigel,
That being the case remind me to book my Greek holiday through a "proper" tour operator and "proper" airline!
That being the case remind me to book my Greek holiday through a "proper" tour operator and "proper" airline!
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Sadly looks like Canadian affair have dropped the idea of a second flt next year and its down as a single A330 again !:ugh:
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FlyBE: E175 for DUS
Somebody at DUS checked BE's plans, hope it's true as it would be very good news: 2 of 4 to BHX to be E175 from 28Oct, rest still Q400. Can somebody here confirm this and also tell me which departures will be the E175, so I can avoid the Q400 
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FlyBE ersetzt Dash8 durch E175 auf MAN-HAJ, an 7 4SEP-2OCT, dann auf allen Rotationen ab 28OCT.
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Nach Düsseldorf gibt's etwas mehr: MAN vollständig auf ERJ-175, BHX zunächst 2 von 4 tgl. Flügen auf ERJ-175, zum Ende des WFP auf 3 von 4 tgl. Rotationen. SOU bleibt bei Turboprops.
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Nach Düsseldorf gibt's etwas mehr: MAN vollständig auf ERJ-175, BHX zunächst 2 von 4 tgl. Flügen auf ERJ-175, zum Ende des WFP auf 3 von 4 tgl. Rotationen. SOU bleibt bei Turboprops.
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OK, a popular online travel agency (ehmm, no ad here) lists E75 for BHX-DUS 13:25 (BE7045) and 17:40 departures (BE7047). On Friday also the 6:50, BE7041. Saturdays this one is at 8:45 and still a Q400. I've checked early Nov. The 10:00 from DUS-BHX on a Monday also still a Q400, as is the Monday 7:00 from DUS (BE7040). Hm, a little confusing then.
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175's & Air Nostrum
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Some Global Distribution Systems now showing three out the four flights are 175's from the winter schedule. Departures from BHX 06.50, 13.20 & 17.40.
The DUS night-stop remains a Q400.
This is Monday - Friday and Sunday evening 17.40 also is a 175.
This has been the plan for weeks and now appearing in GDS.
Air Nostrum
Rumour has it they had double daily slots requested for BHX but no more and of course they had gone for twice weekly Glasgow and daily Manchester in competition with easyjet and ryanair rather than having BHX business, leisure and connecting traffic to themselves.
Perhaps still hope for summer 2012 but just shows how low BHX is a priority for some airlines.
Double daily certainly sounded ambitious but often that is what is required to feed hub flights. Another forum has the Manchester timings ideal for South American connections in both directions and at daily I suppose it will attract some business pax with leisure left for EZY & FR.
Pete
Some Global Distribution Systems now showing three out the four flights are 175's from the winter schedule. Departures from BHX 06.50, 13.20 & 17.40.
The DUS night-stop remains a Q400.
This is Monday - Friday and Sunday evening 17.40 also is a 175.
This has been the plan for weeks and now appearing in GDS.
Air Nostrum
Rumour has it they had double daily slots requested for BHX but no more and of course they had gone for twice weekly Glasgow and daily Manchester in competition with easyjet and ryanair rather than having BHX business, leisure and connecting traffic to themselves.
Perhaps still hope for summer 2012 but just shows how low BHX is a priority for some airlines.
Double daily certainly sounded ambitious but often that is what is required to feed hub flights. Another forum has the Manchester timings ideal for South American connections in both directions and at daily I suppose it will attract some business pax with leisure left for EZY & FR.
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Im sure we will eventually see a similar timed IB flight at BHX.
It will be used to feed the new IAG group flights at MAD, something BHX cant currently do to LHR due to the short distance and train network.
As seen as MAN only went on sale yesterday, still could be time for a winter 11 launch, but, would be very surprised if a BHX-MAD route wasnt up and running by the end of 2012, and if not, would really beg the question of what the routes team at BHX is doing.
It will be used to feed the new IAG group flights at MAD, something BHX cant currently do to LHR due to the short distance and train network.
As seen as MAN only went on sale yesterday, still could be time for a winter 11 launch, but, would be very surprised if a BHX-MAD route wasnt up and running by the end of 2012, and if not, would really beg the question of what the routes team at BHX is doing.
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To the untrained eye (me) I have been asking that question for the last 2 years. The last major announcement was 2 and a half years ago (Turkish)
I though that they didnt have one any more, perhaps someone would like to correct me.
Does anyone know where you apply for the job as the KPI for the role seem to be fine.
Centre cities
I though that they didnt have one any more, perhaps someone would like to correct me.
Does anyone know where you apply for the job as the KPI for the role seem to be fine.
Centre cities
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I can't remember if US Airways was announced after TK, either way it doesn't really matter as they're no longer around. We did have the announcement of Spanair to Madrid and Barcelona - then a few weeks later it was all cancelled. We also had the whole Armavia fiasco which resulted in one PR flight and nothing else.
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And don't forget Iceland Express....
I think BHX should follow the way manchester handled RYR by falling out with them then having them back with RYR annoucing a daily Madrid , something that BHX would be crying out for (among other things)
IBE/ANS would not serve BHX as it's a oneworld member , so if you are from the midlands you MUST use manchester or heathrow
I think BHX should follow the way manchester handled RYR by falling out with them then having them back with RYR annoucing a daily Madrid , something that BHX would be crying out for (among other things)
IBE/ANS would not serve BHX as it's a oneworld member , so if you are from the midlands you MUST use manchester or heathrow
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If it's true that Iberia/Nostrum had requested slots at BHX and taking in to account Spanair's plan to launch flights last year then you would think there is sufficient demand to fill anything from a CRJ to an A320 to Madrid. How long did Iberia operate flights to BHX before? Why did they pull out? MAD represents the last major European hub missing from BHX's network and for me it's the one route they really should be trying to get. Stockholm should be next on the radar and it really would be nice to see the likes of Prague, Barcelona, Rome and Lisbon served by airlines other than bmibaby but I guess beggers shouldn't be choosers. Helsinki, Warsaw, Kiev and Tel Aviv are other routes I'd like to think could come online. In terms of long haul, Doha must surely be a main contender but a service to Delhi/Mumbai would be a more logical choice, especially when AI get their 787's which would be a perfect fit for BHX. Aside from perhaps JFK or Chicago, I really don't see much scope for any more USA routes. Perhaps Air Canada could make a twice weekly Toronto work, again when the 787's arrive. Either way, it's purely speculation and wishful thinking as it always is with BHX. We'll probaby end up yet another random airline like announcing flights and cancelling a week before they're due to start.
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If it's true that Iberia/Nostrum had requested slots at BHX and taking in to account Spanair's plan to launch flights last year then you would think there is sufficient demand to fill anything from a CRJ to an A320 to Madrid
I have no doubt we will eventually see a BHX-MAD, but, more than likely on a CRJ200 or -900.
Doha must surely be a main contender
Helsinki, Warsaw, Kiev and Tel Aviv are other routes I'd like to think could come online
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As i have said before on here, we are just an alliance spoke (star alliance & skyteam) we are not going have anymore point to point routes to major european cities other than the ones we already have for a long time , if ever , by the legacy carriers. Hurts me to say , but i've got used to that fact for many years now. The loco's simply do not have the freqency to make the routes viable i.e at least double daily.
DELTA154. Yes you are right to say the spanair routes were pulled because of dire bookings, but do you remember the times they proposed? 1 flight did not get into BCN until 02.00AM
DELTA154. Yes you are right to say the spanair routes were pulled because of dire bookings, but do you remember the times they proposed? 1 flight did not get into BCN until 02.00AM