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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 16:53
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It seems to me like a rather weak link in the chain that its not possible to fly to the US East Coast from Cork.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 17:02
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It was great to hear that EI will not be absorbed into Ryanair but hopefully they will now become more innovative and open new routes. The 757 lease is at least a step in that direction. It'll be interesting to see what Cork Airport will offer them if they do give consideration to operating a service to JFK from there.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 17:04
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Its a shame EI moved to BHD, a 757 would have been a perfect aircraft to do longhaul from BFS, i doubt now they would move back now
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 18:04
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Nobody cares about Cork!
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 19:25
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Lets see. What European countries connect directly from California? UK, France, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Denmark, Turkey* and Russia*. Some very very big populations served there although some are seasonal I think. Definitely good yields there in most cases I'm sure.

I'm tired of people insisting that EI should have to fly to SFO/LAX. If there was such a great market for it why haven't one of the big US carriers done it ...... ever? EI have done it with some success but at the moment it's gone and rightly so. Fuel is an issue along with other overheads. I don't see any airlines flying to Poland, Austria, Czech, Greece, Portugal, Belgium, Baltic states, Finland, Balkan states, Norway, Sweden. I could go on but you get the point. Many of the big carriers are already feeding into Ireland and the other countries mentioned above via a main European hub. Dublin/Ireland is not a major hub ....... or at least not yet.

Don't get me wrong it would be nice to see EI going back to California but not for the sake of flying an aircraft to keep big businesses happy and for a load of seats to go empty or for some sort of romantic/sentimental notion. Why the demand on EI? Is the same request being put to DL? UA? AA? You can sure they've looked at it too ........ for all of a second.

If EI go back to California they'll want to make money and for no other reason.


* very likely serving a large part of their Asian/Micro Asian population. So do they count?

Sorry rant over.

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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 19:36
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Nice to see a 757 in the colours of EI ! . They won't go back west coast ,not for now anyway , it's a flight where they don't make profit so why would they fly it ? . Also any news on a Cadetship for this year
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 21:47
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What were the loads like when the LAX/SFO routes were flown?
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 22:11
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Wish they would move back to BFS!!!!
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 15:08
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EI should especially move back now what with the long haul tax abolished... but I here they are doing well at BHD
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 16:32
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Do you think Aer Lingus will ever consider a route from Dublin to Gibraltar? I know Malaga is a very popular destination from Dublin and I think a Dublin to Gibraltar route would sell really well.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 17:44
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The recently announced agreement with UA to expand their code share, direct flight to IAD from DUB and ORD from SNN now showing up on the website. economy class only, Business not available.
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Old 6th Mar 2013, 15:16
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Passenger numbers down in February

Aer Lingus traffic falls in February - The Irish Times - Wed, Mar 06, 2013
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Old 6th Mar 2013, 15:23
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Of course, we must remember that in 2012, there were 29 days in February, so with 3.5% less days, a 1.5% drop means a growth in numbers on average for each of the days if I'm thinking right?

Load factors up it looks like, a lot of growth on Regional, I can't remember, is it a year yet since all Aer Arann flights started operating under the Regional banner, if not then that'd explain the large rise in numbers as more flights would have come under that umbrella, if it is more than a year, those are pretty significant growth figures.

Short haul passengers and revenues down on last year by about 6.3%, but I'm not sure if that's offset by the lower number of flights.

Still good results all around I guess.
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Old 6th Mar 2013, 15:41
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Bet they made more on their 532,000 pax in Feb 2013 compared to their 599,000 pax in Feb 2012.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 22:33
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Looks like there is some truth to the 757 rumours: Aer Lingus to Acquire Boeing 757s - ITTN | Irish Travel Trade News Magazine
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 22:49
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Looks like there is some truth to the 757 rumours: Aer Lingus to Acquire Boeing 757s - ITTN | Irish Travel Trade News Magazine
It will be great if this pans out as more T/A flights to Ireland, just wondering if somebody would be able to tell me how much load ratio's with regards nationalities have changed on Aer Lingus T/A services since say the Summer of 2009 (prior to the cessation of IAD & SFO). Comparing 2009 with the present there has been an increase in the amount of short-haul services which allow connections and of course the successful addition of the Regional operation allowing a lot more transfer as well as the steady increase in codeshares and interline agreements. I'd be particularly interested to know what the LF on the IAD and SFO routes were in the Summer of 2009 even though I know this only tells half the story regarding profitability. However I do believe a West Coast route could work now for Aer Lingus they've really built up a good backbone to the T/A operation even though it maybe be awhile before we see both West Coast routes back (LAX & SFO).
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 22:41
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West Coast

Lets say EI do lease 3 757s and use 2 of them at SNN and free up that A330. Would EI launch SFO or LAX first ?
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 22:48
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So with the B757s coming and summer not far off, what's the fleet deployment going to be? Are the routes the B757s going on currently on sale with an A330 product up front? If the A330 comes out of SNN, what's new from DUB for it to fly?
Why bother with Cork long haul if they can just get the Cork punters to use existing services?

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Old 14th Mar 2013, 23:36
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
So with the B757s coming and summer not far off, what's the fleet deployment going to be?
The 757s are not expected in service until winter 2013/14.
If the A330 comes out of SNN, what's new from DUB for it to fly?
A US West Coast route (my money would be on SFO) is surmised.
Why bother with Cork long haul if they can just get the Cork punters to use existing services?
Less of that common sense around here, please!
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 08:26
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EI are trying to build a hub at Dublin and have made great strides in recent years, would it not be in their interest to cut services at SNN altogether and use that capacity to improve US connectivity ex DUB. I appreciate there is a market for SNN but would it not be better and more profitable at DUB?

Perhaps they are happy with the profitability on the routes and don't want to leave the market to the US carriers.

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