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What changes might be needed to the current planning permission?
The runway planning permission was granted with around 31 conditions and the daa in 2008 said they wanted to appeal conditions 3 and 5. I can't remember but it was shortly before it was prospered and I don't think they actually appealed.
Condition 3 states the runway can't be operational between 23.00-07.00 which has two of the busiest slots.
Condition 5 states that when the new runway is operational the average number of movements was capped at 65 between 23.00-07.00. Two of the busiest slots 23.00-00.00 and 06.00-07.00.
The average number of movements between these times this week is 70-75 and at the very least they will be looking for the cap to be lifted if not completely removed into the future and tbh this policy may actually help.
Since 2008 the airport has become much more busier at peak times so 65 movements isn't practical for future growth.
Is tonight's Air Malta arrival and departure via GLA a one off?
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Is tonight's Air Malta arrival and departure via GLA a one off?
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Interesting comments about the planning permission and the peak hours, EI-A330-300. Thanks.
I recall a few years ago (before the D pier was completed) taking off from the runway north of the D pier (what would that have been? Runway 11? 12?) which is now used for aircraft parking.
I gather that the D pier blocks the view of that area from the control tower, and any use of that runway would therefore need an additional control facility. But apart from that, I've often wondered why that runway couldn't be used at peak times for smaller aircraft departures. Is the surface condition too poor? Is the DAA (sorry, "daa") reluctant to display any ability to increase peak capacity lest it weaken their case for a shiny new full-length runway?
I recall a few years ago (before the D pier was completed) taking off from the runway north of the D pier (what would that have been? Runway 11? 12?) which is now used for aircraft parking.
I gather that the D pier blocks the view of that area from the control tower, and any use of that runway would therefore need an additional control facility. But apart from that, I've often wondered why that runway couldn't be used at peak times for smaller aircraft departures. Is the surface condition too poor? Is the DAA (sorry, "daa") reluctant to display any ability to increase peak capacity lest it weaken their case for a shiny new full-length runway?
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Work on new Tower to start in 2016, it will be located in the carpark of the current tower and be 4 times the height.
The IAA has been told construction on 28R/10L to begin in 2019, hence why they are going ahead with the new Tower.
The IAA has been told construction on 28R/10L to begin in 2019, hence why they are going ahead with the new Tower.
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I gather that the D pier blocks the view of that area from the control tower, and any use of that runway would therefore need an additional control facility. But apart from that, I've often wondered why that runway couldn't be used at peak times for smaller aircraft departures. Is the surface condition too poor? Is the DAA (sorry, "daa") reluctant to display any ability to increase peak capacity lest it weaken their case for a shiny new full-length runway?
They can get a lot more movements from 28 during peak times and they have used up some of the slack between 06.00-06.15 more efficiently this summer to manage capacity.
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The new runway cap appears to be raised to 25 million passengers while airport charges are proposed to fall by 22% between 2015 and 2019.
Two stands for A380 are proposed one at Pier E (4) and Pier B (3) as Emirates are looking at A380 ops.
Some interesting reading:
2014 Determination
Two stands for A380 are proposed one at Pier E (4) and Pier B (3) as Emirates are looking at A380 ops.
Some interesting reading:
2014 Determination
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My colleagues at Dublin say the big reason the A380 can't operate there is due to the Bravo taxiways being too close to 10/28 and as such there wouldn't be enough wing tip clearance meaning they would have to stop all runway movement s while it was taxiing. I wonder how much fuel 10 A320s/738s/AYRs would burn in a hold for an extra ten mins? A380 ops cannot happen until either the distance between the bravos and the rwy increases significantly or the new runway is built
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Lufthansa have announced DUB-MUC is to become year round services. They have increased to 6 weekly from 4 weekly over peak summer this year.
Flights will operate Wednesday, Friday, Sunday in November and March and Wednesday and Sunday in December, January and February with A320.
15.30-16.55 Inbound
17.45-20.55 Outbound
Latest News > Lufthansa To Go Year Round On Dublin-Munich
Luxair have announced their service to Luxembourg will now be a year round service and continue to operate 4 weekly.
http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...Expansion.aspx
1 based, Air Contractors have taken up the slack which required a second aircraft last summer since TCX are gone and they moved AGP to scheduled EI.
Flights will operate Wednesday, Friday, Sunday in November and March and Wednesday and Sunday in December, January and February with A320.
15.30-16.55 Inbound
17.45-20.55 Outbound
Latest News > Lufthansa To Go Year Round On Dublin-Munich
Luxair have announced their service to Luxembourg will now be a year round service and continue to operate 4 weekly.
http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...Expansion.aspx
Do TOM have one or two based planes at DUB this summer?
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Almost 2 million passengers in May up 7%
Europe 1.1 million +3
UK 665,000 +9
T/A 207,000 +18
ME/Africa 46,000 +19
Domestic 6,500 +16
Year to date almost 8 million up 7%
http://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?d...te=1&p=8506481
Europe 1.1 million +3
UK 665,000 +9
T/A 207,000 +18
ME/Africa 46,000 +19
Domestic 6,500 +16
Year to date almost 8 million up 7%
http://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?d...te=1&p=8506481
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UA W14/15
9 week route suspension BFSEWR DUBEWR and DUBIAD
Note sure re SNN, good news for EI but bad news for tourism , UA do code share with EI so perhaps a sign of closer relationship?
Note sure re SNN, good news for EI but bad news for tourism , UA do code share with EI so perhaps a sign of closer relationship?
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When...? I just looked in Nov and Feb and the flights are available?
I have a hard time believing DUB looses both EWR and IAD for this period (MAN is also rumoured to get some cuts but not confirmed), yet routes that have been cut back in winters past, such as GLA/BHX/EDI are not being touched?
All seems very strange to me?
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Further growth from Flybe, new route to Inverness from 26 Oct. Operates daily.
BE will also take on SEN from EIR but drop to a daily flight. Flybe and not Stobart will operate the route using a SOU based Dash 8
BE will also take on SEN from EIR but drop to a daily flight. Flybe and not Stobart will operate the route using a SOU based Dash 8
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WestJet Flights
The first WestJet flight should operate from St Johns on Sunday/Monday. I'm quite interested in this as WestJet is seen as sort of the Southwest/Easyjet of Canada. It would be great to see some more international economy options if they do decide to expand.
WestJet to cross Atlantic Ocean this weekend, eyes further expansion - Calgary - CBC News
WestJet to cross Atlantic Ocean this weekend, eyes further expansion - Calgary - CBC News
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Would appear that two CO B752 will be replacing 2 UA B763 between EWR-LHR for most of the time IAD-DUB/MAN are suspended and the a few weeks maintenance before going back to IAD.