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Old 26th May 2014, 22:13
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What changes might be needed to the current planning permission?
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The runway planning permission was granted with around 31 conditions and the daa in 2008 said they wanted to appeal conditions 3 and 5. I can't remember but it was shortly before it was prospered and I don't think they actually appealed.

Condition 3 states the runway can't be operational between 23.00-07.00 which has two of the busiest slots.

Condition 5 states that when the new runway is operational the average number of movements was capped at 65 between 23.00-07.00. Two of the busiest slots 23.00-00.00 and 06.00-07.00.

The average number of movements between these times this week is 70-75 and at the very least they will be looking for the cap to be lifted if not completely removed into the future and tbh this policy may actually help.

Since 2008 the airport has become much more busier at peak times so 65 movements isn't practical for future growth.

Is tonight's Air Malta arrival and departure via GLA a one off?

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Old 26th May 2014, 22:23
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Is tonight's Air Malta arrival and departure via GLA a one off?
Bringing Maltese Nationals back to Ireland after voting in Malta for the LEA's, similar flight last Friday bringing them to Malta.
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Old 27th May 2014, 10:18
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Interesting comments about the planning permission and the peak hours, EI-A330-300. Thanks.

I recall a few years ago (before the D pier was completed) taking off from the runway north of the D pier (what would that have been? Runway 11? 12?) which is now used for aircraft parking.

I gather that the D pier blocks the view of that area from the control tower, and any use of that runway would therefore need an additional control facility. But apart from that, I've often wondered why that runway couldn't be used at peak times for smaller aircraft departures. Is the surface condition too poor? Is the DAA (sorry, "daa") reluctant to display any ability to increase peak capacity lest it weaken their case for a shiny new full-length runway?

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Old 27th May 2014, 13:10
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Work on new Tower to start in 2016, it will be located in the carpark of the current tower and be 4 times the height.

The IAA has been told construction on 28R/10L to begin in 2019, hence why they are going ahead with the new Tower.
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Old 27th May 2014, 13:42
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I gather that the D pier blocks the view of that area from the control tower, and any use of that runway would therefore need an additional control facility. But apart from that, I've often wondered why that runway couldn't be used at peak times for smaller aircraft departures. Is the surface condition too poor? Is the DAA (sorry, "daa") reluctant to display any ability to increase peak capacity lest it weaken their case for a shiny new full-length runway?
Don't think that the tower is an issue but a new tower is a must with new runway as it blocks visibility. 11 could be reopened with little work. It was included in the CAP charges (2010-2014) as a provision if needed.

They can get a lot more movements from 28 during peak times and they have used up some of the slack between 06.00-06.15 more efficiently this summer to manage capacity.
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Old 31st May 2014, 00:17
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The new runway cap appears to be raised to 25 million passengers while airport charges are proposed to fall by 22% between 2015 and 2019.

Two stands for A380 are proposed one at Pier E (4) and Pier B (3) as Emirates are looking at A380 ops.

Some interesting reading:
2014 Determination

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Old 31st May 2014, 12:09
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My colleagues at Dublin say the big reason the A380 can't operate there is due to the Bravo taxiways being too close to 10/28 and as such there wouldn't be enough wing tip clearance meaning they would have to stop all runway movement s while it was taxiing. I wonder how much fuel 10 A320s/738s/AYRs would burn in a hold for an extra ten mins? A380 ops cannot happen until either the distance between the bravos and the rwy increases significantly or the new runway is built

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Old 1st Jun 2014, 18:19
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TOM

Do TOM have one or two based planes at DUB this summer?
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 00:30
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Lufthansa have announced DUB-MUC is to become year round services. They have increased to 6 weekly from 4 weekly over peak summer this year.

Flights will operate Wednesday, Friday, Sunday in November and March and Wednesday and Sunday in December, January and February with A320.

15.30-16.55 Inbound
17.45-20.55 Outbound

Latest News > Lufthansa To Go Year Round On Dublin-Munich

Luxair have announced their service to Luxembourg will now be a year round service and continue to operate 4 weekly.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...Expansion.aspx

Do TOM have one or two based planes at DUB this summer?
1 based, Air Contractors have taken up the slack which required a second aircraft last summer since TCX are gone and they moved AGP to scheduled EI.
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Old 9th Jun 2014, 23:57
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Almost 2 million passengers in May up 7%

Europe 1.1 million +3
UK 665,000 +9
T/A 207,000 +18
ME/Africa 46,000 +19
Domestic 6,500 +16

Year to date almost 8 million up 7%

http://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?d...te=1&p=8506481
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Old 11th Jun 2014, 21:10
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UA W14/15

9 week route suspension BFSEWR DUBEWR and DUBIAD
Note sure re SNN, good news for EI but bad news for tourism , UA do code share with EI so perhaps a sign of closer relationship?
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Old 11th Jun 2014, 21:19
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When...? I just looked in Nov and Feb and the flights are available?
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Old 11th Jun 2014, 21:24
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When...? I just looked in Nov and Feb and the flights are available?
According to the BBC, BFS-EWR gets cut 9th Jan-11th March.

I have a hard time believing DUB looses both EWR and IAD for this period (MAN is also rumoured to get some cuts but not confirmed), yet routes that have been cut back in winters past, such as GLA/BHX/EDI are not being touched?

All seems very strange to me?
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Old 11th Jun 2014, 23:58
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EWR will not change but IAD takes a break. IAD the same from MAN and FCO.
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Old 12th Jun 2014, 12:02
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Further growth from Flybe, new route to Inverness from 26 Oct. Operates daily.

BE will also take on SEN from EIR but drop to a daily flight. Flybe and not Stobart will operate the route using a SOU based Dash 8

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Old 13th Jun 2014, 16:24
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WestJet Flights

The first WestJet flight should operate from St Johns on Sunday/Monday. I'm quite interested in this as WestJet is seen as sort of the Southwest/Easyjet of Canada. It would be great to see some more international economy options if they do decide to expand.

WestJet to cross Atlantic Ocean this weekend, eyes further expansion - Calgary - CBC News
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 21:02
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Noticed UA had a B764 on the early EWR arrival and departure, excellent loads to.
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 00:34
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EDI and GLA have always been "touched" over the winter from their summer schedules in recent years. Remember most of the services ex EDI are peak summer daily only
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 10:42
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Whats the likelihood of ual 131 having a 767 within the next 9 days?
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 00:26
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Would appear that two CO B752 will be replacing 2 UA B763 between EWR-LHR for most of the time IAD-DUB/MAN are suspended and the a few weeks maintenance before going back to IAD.
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