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Old 26th Jul 2012, 20:00
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Liverpool has some of the cheapest car parking in the country
Totally disagree.

I pre-booked parking in the multi-story car park at LPL in May this year and it cost £42.50 for a stay from 14.30 on Saturday until 12.30 on Monday ie; under 2 days, and you get wet walking to the terminal if it's raining.
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Old 26th Jul 2012, 20:30
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Ryanair to close Spanish routes in airport tax row
Ryanair is to scrap 11 routes to Madrid and four to Barcelona El Prat following the Spanish Government’s decision to double taxes at the two airports.
The routes include one between Madrid and Manchester, one from East Midlands to Barcelona, and another from Leeds Bradford to the Catalan capital.
This has affected Liverpool also.

Ryanair to close Spanish routes in airport tax row - Telegraph

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Old 27th Jul 2012, 14:18
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What's going on at MAN , Friday 1500. Several missed apps , then a switch to 23L. I guess it's 380 time about now?
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Old 27th Jul 2012, 16:23
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EK A380 returned to stand, subsequently blowing freshly cut grass all over 23R

Airport was reduced to single runway ops (23L) which meant aircraft had to backtrack etc, think we lost a Small Planet and Monarch to Liverpool due to holding times.

Was very weird to hear 'Snowplough X entering runway 23R' at the end of July in work
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Old 27th Jul 2012, 17:08
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Nice work 750XL, thanks for the info. I guess these things happen.
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Old 27th Jul 2012, 17:33
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Nice work 750XL, thanks for the info. I guess these things happen.
But seemingly only here. This year Manchester Airport has suffered reduced ops due to grass, a flamingo and a stray dog.

Would make great TV and a mean question on Millionaire in a few years
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Old 27th Jul 2012, 20:44
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What's going on at MAN , Friday 1500. Several missed apps , then a switch to 23L. I guess it's 380 time about now?
So thats what te 'incident' was then. I was at MAN today and I wondered why we were stuck at the Gate for ages.
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 19:56
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MAN up 2.45% in July 12

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/m...ile/July12.pdf
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 16:38
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bloody nora

Just had RYR3243 take a massive shortcut on approach to 23R, went directly over my house on base leg at about 2000/2500ft and turned final at 1500ft. It was Ryanair so what do you expect

Has anyone ever seen a flight take that big of a shortcut on approach?

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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 16:54
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BA ATPs used to swing over Wythenshawe Civic on short finals, but them were the olden days....
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 17:35
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....before the risk analysis numpties ruled "not less than 4 miles when turning final.".
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 18:19
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visual approach
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 19:11
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Why do these patently unqualified folk venture such silly statements? Do they want to join in "being a commercial pilot"? Ah well. this website has some good stuff and masses of clag.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 10:37
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.before the risk analysis numpties ruled "not less than 4 miles when turning final.".
Thought it was an environmental thing?

It's in the UK AIP under para 2.21 Noise Abatement Procedures.

http://www.mantma.co.uk/pdf/eg_ad_2_egcc_en.pdf

This from para 2.21 a

iv. Unless otherwise authorised by ATC, aircraft using the ILS in IMC and VMC shall not descend below 2000 ft before intercepting the glidepath, not hereafter fly below it. An aircraft approaching without assistance from ILS or radar shall follow a descent path which will not result in its being at any time lower than the approach path which would be followed by an aircraft using the ILS glidepath.

For visual approaches, or following a visual circuit, to Runway 23R/23L the following additional limitations apply:
1. Jet aircraft shall not join the final approach at a height of less than 1500 ft aal
2. Propeller driven aircraft whose MTWA exceeds 5700 kg shall not join the final approach at a distance of less than 3 nm from the landing
threshold and at a height of less than 1000 ft aal.

and turned final at 1500ft.
So if it was at 1500 feet that's OK then although I'm not sure how you knew what the height was.

Can't blame the pilot for asking for a visual if they can see the airfield and are set up and briefed for a possible visual approach and can't blame ATC if they give him clearance if it is safe and expeditious to do so.

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Old 4th Aug 2012, 12:00
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So if it was at 1500 feet that's OK then although I'm not sure how you knew what the height was.

Can't blame the pilot for asking for a visual if they can see the airfield and are set up and briefed for a possible visual approach and can't blame ATC if they give him clearance if it is safe and expeditious to do so.
If it came in for a visual approach I have no issue with it being that close. If it was being vectored for an ILS approach, it is almost borderline on the guidelines of a minimum 4 mile approach. I used FR24 to note it's height when turning finals.

I am just curious to know how often you will find aircraft on a visual approach, that close to an airport on base leg.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 13:00
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MAG sell HUY

Seem to remember they tried to offload HUY last year? Now succeeded

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MAG sells its majority stake in Humberside Airport | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 14:58
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There is more to selling HUY than it first seems, according to the MEN today.

Manchester Airport secures £1bn boost to buy Stansted | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

MAG, together with an Australian Investment Group are looking to bid for Stansted.

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Old 4th Aug 2012, 16:26
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Let's hope the bid fails. Having lost a fortune @ Humberside I don't see the benefits here. Last time they splashed cash out to buy other airports, they took the eye off the ball @ MAN & let the infrastructure deteriorate.
Stansteds' appeal has peaked so why take on a huge liability?
Spend the money on MAN & make it the place that everyone wants to go to, so there's even less of a need for Stansted to even exist.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 23:45
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Just had RYR3243 take a massive shortcut on approach to 23R, went directly over my house on base leg at about 2000/2500ft and turned final at 1500ft. It was Ryanair so what do you expect

Has anyone ever seen a flight take that big of a shortcut on approach?
I saw a few one day a couple of years ago, EK777 first caught my eye taking a short cut over Salford Quays, turned on to finals about 5 miles out, but that was some serious wx avoiding. Pilots refused to go 10 miles, can't say I blame them, cell looked pretty mean. Great spotting for me though
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Old 5th Aug 2012, 07:12
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Like many others on here I suspect we are all totally lost with this one.

MAG was "essentially" set up by the various councils in the Manchester area to operate invest and expand Manchester. It went off piste a few years back buying initially East Midlands, then Humberside and then even more bizarre , Bournemouth.

With expansion of cargo facilities at Manchester limited there was no doubt some sense in buying East Mids....But Humberside and Bourmenouth ?

And now the current airport directors are on an excursion to buy Stansted, a busted flush if ever there was one.

It was built as Londons 3rd airport but not one major airline has moved from LHR of LGW since it opened.

It got lucky as it opened as final development coincided with the locost boom. Even there there were alleged rumours of massive subsidies (unsubstantiated of course), to entice certain carriers in. Those discounts (if they existed), stopped and in the intervening period it has lost massive amounts of traffic regardless of the economic outlook. As soon as slots appear elswhere flights shift.....

Air Berlin moved en masse to LGW, Easyjet have also moved many of their flights, even shifted some to Southend.

The place is run by Ryanair who as the largest operator must surely have some influence over fees etc , upset them and there is nobody left !

With massive investment required in Manchester to make it one single terminal and therefore more attractive as a major transfer hub, why on earth are MAG looking at investment in an airport which will not benefit anybody in the Manchester area by one iota.

Using this mentality why not take it one step further, buy Stansted but then sell Manchester ?

They could then rename M.A.G. ...S.A.G.

Given recent traffic levels at Londons "so called" 3rd airport it seems a rather appropriate acronym !

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