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Old 31st Jan 2012, 21:58
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Confirmed by Qatar that the early morning flight is to be replaced by a 787 from September!
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 22:08
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Great News!
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 22:31
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Does anyone know if the Qatar 787's will have the full first class offering? Might hold off a planned trip for the end of August to mid-September if it's worth the wait....
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 23:07
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MKY661 "Great news!".
Real aircraft, (made of metal), being replaced by equipment made of plastic?
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Its outrageous isnt it, you would not catch airbus making anything on their "equipment" out of plastic would you, about time we forgot all about this composite nonsense and got back using to proper materials.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 08:48
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A £1 (or 2 Euro) non-returnable charge to use a baggage trolley at manairport being introduced from April.

Another backward step designed to p**s people off.

If arriving from non euro / GB land guess, yr be scuppered anyway.

source: Granada TV
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 08:57
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Typical, as if having to use that place isnt bad enough now they shaft you for the privilige of using one of their crappy trolleys.... ah well at least the parking charges are fair and reasonable
However it is i suppose all part or the MAN experiance.. getting royally reamed at every opportunity
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So if i pay a pound and its non- returnable, does that mean i can take said trolley home with me to use the next time?
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And of course Manchester is the only airport to be doing this.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 09:17
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Correct they are, the rest refund your money on return of the trolley,... but not at dick turpin international


UK Airport Charges - APH.com
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 09:20
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For how often I use MAN- I never use a trolley. I see very few people using them either. They need to pay for themselves I suppose.

Most people don't bother with them now - too much hassle.
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Yes most people have bags with wheels now
Most airports are rip off now with big charges for drop off or having to park away from terminal and either walk or get bus which I find far more annoying
especially if weather is bad
Topspotter remember if the likes of Ryanair operate flights, the airport makes no money from them so has to charge that pax for the privalage, so will charge you somewhere it hurts your wallet and at present Manchester has a very good
drop off zone and infact better than most in the UK.
As a post thought I seem to remember the huge number of trolleys that
used to just dissappear and were found miles from the airport dumped
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 10:57
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Thanks for the link Topspotter which tells me the following airports charge £1 for a baggage trolley - Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds/Bradford and Luton.

There are others that charge but refund.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 13:29
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Manchester Airport : Trolley charges - from 10 April 2012

You can't make this stuff up! This is a barrell of laughs to read!! The bit I like best is that they are spending a MILLION quid on these trollies and that they are FITTED WITH GPS in order that airport "management" can track them to "hot spots" so as they can better distribute their resources!

Hey guess what? I can TELL you where the hotspots are right now...

The Car Park
Departures
Arrivals

Unbelieveable. I am willing to bet they spent a fair wedge to decide to overspend for baggage trollies that quite frankly there is nothing wrong with and really probably don't need replacing in the first place!! Furthermore, they will now have to pay more people to collect the trollies as without a refund, any incentive to return them has been removed!

Best bit of it all though... The airport in their own press release even say that only 5% of passengers actually USE the damned things anyway!!

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Old 1st Feb 2012, 13:40
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Amazing, could only happen at man, how about spending that cash on making the airport a little more pax friendly like reducing the scandalous parking charges, last time i was over at Turpin International a staff member was telling me their making so much on car parking there even throwing people out of the staff car parks to make way for more lucrative guests

Ive never been to a airport where the staff are so pissed off with the mangement

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Old 1st Feb 2012, 13:53
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Can only say you don't get around much then.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 14:33
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Interesting to see that this morning you said the parking charges are "fair and reasonable" and now you decide they are "scandalous". Even I think the parking charges aren't that bad, you really need to start widening your channel of thought when it comes to all this. It's like when the Runway Viewing Park increased the prices and people said it was unjustifiable to do so. Well, how else can they pay for all the improvements to the surfaces in that area, the project to safely move the newts, the costs at maintaining the Concorde hangar etc.

Money cannot be spent on improvements unless the money is actually generated in the first place. It is better to increase the charge in something to generate money for a bigger project to benefit the area in the long-term, rather than, don't increase any charges and just use whatever money we have to 'seal the leaks'.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 14:41
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If you look old chap to the right of where i wrote fair and reasonable you will, if you look very very hard notice a little icon thats rolling his eyes, now go to the icon index and look what a icon with rolling eyes denotes .... .....you must be cutting yourself constantly jack
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 15:17
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Trolleys and charges

I think we have to consider this in the context of what is happening in the air transport industry as a whole. In charging for trolleys MAN is only following a trend towards transparency of charging - you pay for what you use, and if you don't use it you don't pay for it. That - we are told - is what the customer wants. It is certainly the way the lo-co airlines work - with increasingly complex schedules of charges for what we once assumed to be included in the fare.

MAN was carpeted by some critics for years because it didn't run with the lo-co trend, but now I guess something like 50% of MAN's traffic is loco. Lo-cos and their passengers want cheap charges / fares, but the cost of running an airport doesn't come down accordingly. A runway / taxiway / ATCO / Fire Service costs the same whether they are being used by Lufthansa, or Ryanair. To be able to offer the sort of basic charging scale 'demanded' by today's customer, airports will have to look at where they can claw back some revenues through selective charging for 'extras' like trolleys. In the end it is the customer who has chosen this trend, or has been led to expect that air travel really can be cheap (I don't think it can be sustained). We can go back to high charges which cover everything, but will the travelling public be ready to pay the corresponding fares? Take your choice.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 16:03
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Trolleys

Here's the MEN take on it

Holidaymakers charged £1 to use Manchester airport trolleys - and from April they won't get it back | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

Always entertaining to read the comments. I expect Topspotter is on there somewhere in another guise

Interesting that the trolleys are to be fitted with GPS. I look forward to an app, so we can all watch where they are. But no doubt that would cost too

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