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Old 17th Dec 2011, 15:24
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Shoot the fecker?

That's exactly what airfield ops did in the end, as far as I know, so any better suggestions ?
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 15:30
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That's exactly what airfield ops did in the end, as far as I know, so any better suggestions
It seems my idea wasn't used as an MEN article claims 'happily the dog was re-united with the owners'.

Seems my suggestion would have brought a quicker resolution after all. That will teach dog owners to keep your dog on a lead!
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 15:35
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Maybe it took more than 5 minutes to locate the dog?

Manchester is a fairly big place you know...
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 17:09
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United with ? its Master(s)

If the article says "Happliy reunited with the owners" - It does not state what "state" the afformantioned, mobile, self propelled, airfield obstruction was in or whom was "Happy".

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Old 17th Dec 2011, 18:34
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Happily reunited with its owners.

On which side of the pearly gates have they been reunited?
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 18:53
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Would love to have seen it, The sight of a whippet running rings around those ops jobsworths would have been a joy to behold.
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 19:07
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I would say the biggest mistake with the 2nd runway was not building a taxiway all the way to the far western end; thus requiring any aircraft landing on 23L, or departing on 05R to back track on the runway.
I think there was a plan to do this in the future.
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 19:43
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Stray Dog

J**** C**** FENTONNN!!!!
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 20:23
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This thread has gone to the dogs......for sure !!

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Old 17th Dec 2011, 20:53
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Topspotter

You do not seem to have a high regard for Ops staff at Manchester and you also seem not to have the full Information before you post threads on here (Re Snow closure) of yesterday.

Could I please ask what experience you have in order that you post these Threads as they can be very hurtful to lots of people who work there butts off to Keep an Airport the Size of Manchester operational in some very harsh conditions.

Please let us know you foundation to be able to post such threads.

If you are Top spotter wow Ive talked to you but please be careful what your comments contain unless you are 100 percent sure of your facts and not listening to chineese whispers that seem to be rife in the spotters world


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Old 17th Dec 2011, 21:06
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Having spent 45 mins in/out of the hold awaiting capture of said hound, I would not necessarily criticise what MAN did. However, we did wonder why it is quite acceptable at LHR to report the foxes that wander around, including across active runways - and whilst "monitored", or a leader despatched to "investigate", Ops continue as normal

Anyway, gives a good jibe to make at MAN security when they stop you for an extra 1ml of water that shame they get exicted about that, but cannot stop loose dogs getting past them

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Old 17th Dec 2011, 21:36
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I just wonder how a dog can get inside the castle (read security fences) like that?

Now I wonder why the EK20 this evening was over 2.5 hours late out of MAN. The playback on flightradar24.com showed a number of aircraft in holding pattern before EK20 departed. Was it a new run(a)way dog?
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 21:40
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Off all tha types of dog it could've been, it had to be a whippet, being Manchester...

Wasn't it on the TAF? How dare MAN be caught out
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 21:46
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Angel Tally Ho!

For a 2 r/w airport, MAN certainly has a high level of holding. But I better not complain, because I will be wrong...no debate allowed!

The new spate of holding is allegedly because the airport authorities have come up with the idea of a Hunt, which is intended to chase down foxes, whippets, and possibly garrulous pilots too. The Airport Hunt has been out practicing, chasing their tails all over the place and causing temporary closure of active runways at short notice. NOTAMs to be issued in future. They masquerade as uniformed folk careering around the place, calling themselves "Leaders". Daft beggars
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 22:02
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Don`t forget that 2nd runay opening is curtailed at present due ATC training on new equipement ( electronic progress strips ) which I think runs until February and also
Christmas closure.

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Old 18th Dec 2011, 12:43
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Learjet 50 ...very harsh conditions ? i guess you mean the recent artic blast MAN suffered when the mercury plunged to around plus 2 and you had a dreadfull sleet blizzard that lasted all of ten minutes.... result a well equiped major international airport closed for two hours because they "forgot" to treat the runway overnight...pitifull
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 12:51
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Temps of plus two? I'd like to see some evidence to back that statement up

Forgot to treat the runway? Errr, treat it for what exactly?

The airport closed because the snow wasn't predicted, meaning we didn't have the staff on standby to deal with the snow that fell

Or do we keep 30+ staff on standby 24/7 at a high cost (which will be passed onto you, the customer, probably resulting in more moaning).
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 13:01
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Mabye I can't comment here as I don't know how much snow there was but fly DUB-LHR-LAX on Firday morning and snow wasn't due to fall in Dublin and they had teams clearing/de icing the runway late Thurday night for flights the following morning.
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 14:34
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Snow wasnt predicated ???? er... its mid winter in the northern half of the country surely to god you have to plan for the possibilty,... if it had happened in july yeah you may have had a point
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 14:52
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There's quite a comprehensive snow plough actually, think it involves a bit more than a few blokes with brooms too

http://www.magworld.co.uk/magweb.nsf...LWinterOpsPlan

Yes it's mid winter, yes we get snow in winter, that's why the airport has relocated all of their snow clearing equipment to stand 22, and is why they have been testing the stuff over the past few weeks. However, where do you want them to get staff from when snow starts to fall unexpectedly? Or are you saying they should have 30+ staff sat on their arse all winter on the odd chance snow falls unexpectedly? I think you need to go and read up on basic economics of running an airport, or operating any business for that matter.
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