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Easyjet have reduced many routes form MAN in Dec, Jan, Feb. Routes are: GOT, TFS, MAD, HAM, MUC, SXF, ALC, GVA, SOF, ZRH, SSH, AGP, PFO
MLA, BFS, AMS, ATH are the only ones not being reduced..
MLA, BFS, AMS, ATH are the only ones not being reduced..
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Is it not sensible to cut rotations in a quieter period and is that not what Easyjet are doing? As was said whether accidently or not the post was badly worded. One presumes the flights will return to their previous levels after the 3 month period?
Plus manchester is not affected in isolation there are route reductions in general over the network.
Plus manchester is not affected in isolation there are route reductions in general over the network.
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Suprised at GVA but looking at LTN shedules, what used to be 8 a day in Jan are only 4 now. Everyone is cutting back, it will be a very tough winter, only the fitest with survive through to next year!
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It is very disappointing, from a personal point of view, that easyJet have cut the AGP route to operate only on Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon....and this starts in November and is still the case in March. It appears to be OTT.
Whilst I am still using EZY in November, but unfortunately, via Liverpool, which causes inconvenience, I have had to resort to Ryanair in March.
Similarly, ZB have dropped to only one flight each day, with only the Sunday flight being in an afternoon. As Jet2 don't fly the route in winter, it is crying out for someone to operate a daily after midday departure from MAN to AGP....maybe a Spanish airline, with a smaller aircraft....Air Nostrum, now they are operating MAN-MAD for Iberia seem to fit the bill.
Whilst I am still using EZY in November, but unfortunately, via Liverpool, which causes inconvenience, I have had to resort to Ryanair in March.
Similarly, ZB have dropped to only one flight each day, with only the Sunday flight being in an afternoon. As Jet2 don't fly the route in winter, it is crying out for someone to operate a daily after midday departure from MAN to AGP....maybe a Spanish airline, with a smaller aircraft....Air Nostrum, now they are operating MAN-MAD for Iberia seem to fit the bill.
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Whilst I understand your frustration, if you look at the total number of AGP flights from LBA MAN LPL EMA there is way to much capacity in the Market place even in summer, very few med flight are full other than the peak travel dates.
This winter will be tough,all airlines will be cutting flight frequency, even some of the flights on sale now will be chopped and passengers bumped onto following or previous day or refunded. Cash will be king, the punters lack the confidence to forward book and the hassle of flying these days puts many off, I used to see getting to the airport as the start of my holiday,not anymore the security, the queues,that's before we start trying to repack at the gate knowing that you might be a few kilos over, knowing you will be hunted down and sent to the naughty desk to pay.
This winter will be tough,all airlines will be cutting flight frequency, even some of the flights on sale now will be chopped and passengers bumped onto following or previous day or refunded. Cash will be king, the punters lack the confidence to forward book and the hassle of flying these days puts many off, I used to see getting to the airport as the start of my holiday,not anymore the security, the queues,that's before we start trying to repack at the gate knowing that you might be a few kilos over, knowing you will be hunted down and sent to the naughty desk to pay.
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the queues,that's before we start trying to repack at the gate knowing that you might be a few kilos over, knowing you will be hunted down and sent to the naughty desk to pay
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I`m not sure struggling is the word
Basle 4356 per month up 107% on 2010 av 72 ppf
Geneva 8540 per month up 26% on 2010 av 142 ppf
Zurich 24918 per month up 7% on 2010 av 107 ppf
compared with BHX which only has Zurich which av on 70ppf
I know we need to know Yield but those figures don`t suggest struggling
Ian B
Basle 4356 per month up 107% on 2010 av 72 ppf
Geneva 8540 per month up 26% on 2010 av 142 ppf
Zurich 24918 per month up 7% on 2010 av 107 ppf
compared with BHX which only has Zurich which av on 70ppf
I know we need to know Yield but those figures don`t suggest struggling
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Basle has improved but if the 319 is now 138 seats it makes the load factor quite worrying but as you say yields might save the day.
April was 3655 pax 56 rotations = 65 per flight and May 3774 with 62 rotations = 61 pax, which is below 50%. Ideal RJ100 load factors!
BHX & MAN to Zurich load factors are similar around the 70% mark.
Much as I don't like the idea of the F100 on the BHX service it certainly is the right size although I suppose you could say the same of the Swiss RJ100.
Manchester has seen considerable passenger growth due to the easyjet flights but BHX has shown a more modest increase - 10% in 2010 compared to 2009.
Manchester to Zurich was up 23% in 2010 but Geneva down 11% (BHX down 14%) and Basle was up 8% in 2010.
The Geneva cutback is the Tuesday service for about four weeks exactly the same as BHX-GVA.
Pete
Basle has improved but if the 319 is now 138 seats it makes the load factor quite worrying but as you say yields might save the day.
April was 3655 pax 56 rotations = 65 per flight and May 3774 with 62 rotations = 61 pax, which is below 50%. Ideal RJ100 load factors!
BHX & MAN to Zurich load factors are similar around the 70% mark.
Much as I don't like the idea of the F100 on the BHX service it certainly is the right size although I suppose you could say the same of the Swiss RJ100.
Manchester has seen considerable passenger growth due to the easyjet flights but BHX has shown a more modest increase - 10% in 2010 compared to 2009.
Manchester to Zurich was up 23% in 2010 but Geneva down 11% (BHX down 14%) and Basle was up 8% in 2010.
The Geneva cutback is the Tuesday service for about four weeks exactly the same as BHX-GVA.
Pete
Easyjet have scaled back schedules consistently in recent Winter's. It obviously brings capacity in line with demand whilst still maintaining the route. Again as in previous years increased frequencies maybe added where demand is sufficient.
I can say for sure however that GVA will see frequency increases this Winter with an additional service on a Friday, and a third frequency on a Saturday and all buy one of the GVA's each week will now be MAN operated.
SSH will become a 3Xweekly service which is (I think) what it was last Winter.
As usual though, the majority of the frequency "scale backs" are the AGP's and ALC's. Theres plenty of competition and mid-week Winter can be incredibly slack as these destinations are near as damn it Weekend style destinations during that time of the year.
I can say for sure however that GVA will see frequency increases this Winter with an additional service on a Friday, and a third frequency on a Saturday and all buy one of the GVA's each week will now be MAN operated.
SSH will become a 3Xweekly service which is (I think) what it was last Winter.
As usual though, the majority of the frequency "scale backs" are the AGP's and ALC's. Theres plenty of competition and mid-week Winter can be incredibly slack as these destinations are near as damn it Weekend style destinations during that time of the year.
Have been looking for a day trip from Manchester/Liverpool in December for a short while. The previous routes I used to use at that time of year (CDG/GVA etc) used to be two flights per day with an early out and a late back. But these have all disappeared of the schedules.
However yesterday managed to book seven seats on MAN/AMS with EZY for about £55 each return inc taxes. That's pretty cheap; I wonder why?
However yesterday managed to book seven seats on MAN/AMS with EZY for about £55 each return inc taxes. That's pretty cheap; I wonder why?
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It looks like from 1st Nov we will go from no Madrid flights to:
EZY 5 x week afternoon flights
RYR 4 x week evening flights
IBE 7 x week afternoon flights
and there is also the rumour of Monarch / Air Europa interest, although this may have now fallen through.
Is there demand for 16 flights a week? a great shame there is not an early morning departure on any of the flights. It would be great if there were 7 early morning flights & 7 evening flights, but a day return is impossible on the schedules.
Although the Iberia / Air Nostrum flight is bookable-it does not appear on their route map, even though the newly announced twice weeekly Madrid -Glasgow (from 1.11.11) does appear. Nor does it appear on the Manchester Airport web-site. Does the timings with Air Nostrum, which is failrly late, connect with any significant south American Madrid departures?
EZY 5 x week afternoon flights
RYR 4 x week evening flights
IBE 7 x week afternoon flights
and there is also the rumour of Monarch / Air Europa interest, although this may have now fallen through.
Is there demand for 16 flights a week? a great shame there is not an early morning departure on any of the flights. It would be great if there were 7 early morning flights & 7 evening flights, but a day return is impossible on the schedules.
Although the Iberia / Air Nostrum flight is bookable-it does not appear on their route map, even though the newly announced twice weeekly Madrid -Glasgow (from 1.11.11) does appear. Nor does it appear on the Manchester Airport web-site. Does the timings with Air Nostrum, which is failrly late, connect with any significant south American Madrid departures?