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Old 16th Jun 2011, 23:07
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was reading monarchs new plans for the airline from next year
i think there is a real gap in the market for them to start from BFS next year as our current low cost carriers just seem to be competing with each other on the same european routes, and as MON flying alot to greece and cyprus they should be able to fit in nicely

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Old 17th Jun 2011, 08:18
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BFS-EWR

taken from united.com

A message from Charles Duncan, United transatlantic, Middle East and India vice-president on Ireland and why United needs to get in touch with the Irish people.

“United has zero brand recognition here (Ireland), so we’ll have to work hard to get our message across.”

One change that will be introduced is an economy-plus cabin, offering more legroom for those willing to spend a few extra bucks. This has previously been offered on United flights, but not with Continental.
Continental recently added four flights a week to its summer schedule from Shannon.
“Shannon works for us,” Duncan said. “There’s certainly a market there.”
Duncan said Continental carried 124,996 passengers in the first five months of this year on its Dublin and Shannon routes.
The load factors on its 175-seat Boeing 757 aircraft average out at more than 80 per cent.
And he indicated that Shannon is a profitable route. “We wouldn’t be increasing our services from there if it wasn’t.”
But demand from Belfast has softened, not helped by the British government levying £60 in departure taxes on US flights.
Many Northerners are now flying from Dublin, especially as Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar is preparing to scrap the travel tax. “It’s a very real difference,” Duncan said.
“We applaud the Irish Government’s decision on the departure tax. To me, it signals that the Government gets it.”
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 09:36
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JET2 new FARO route

Jet2 have announced new route to FARO. Got an email today......
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 10:32
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On the previous page sealink, only once a week but they still could have been a bit more imaginative.. but i guess if theres the demand then why not.

LS305 = Belfast 07:10 - Faro 10:20
LS306 = Faro 10:55 - Belfast 14:15

BHD2BFS, the fact that Southend has been announced from the Southend side of things but nothing said from Belfast, it would suggest that they are holding off to announce a number of routes . The EI Regional rumor has been floating around since the start of the year. As for MON, think i read that if demand was good for the 6 flights over summer they would look at expanding them, more than likely next year.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 10:36
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As for MON, think i read that if demand was good for the 6 flights over summer they would look at expanding them, more than likely next year.
Is this in relation to the Atlantic Holidays charters to Maderia??
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 10:46
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But demand from Belfast has softened, not helped by the British government levying £60 in departure taxes on US flights.
Many Northerners are now flying from Dublin, especially as Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar is preparing to scrap the travel tax. “It’s a very real difference,” Duncan said.
“We applaud the Irish Government’s decision on the departure tax. To me, it signals that the Government gets it.”
Sounds to me like a very real threat to the BFS EWR service. It is cheaper to fly from Dublin and pax can clear US immigration before they board.

Time for our politicians to earn some money and make us a more attractive place to do business.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 10:47
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Is this in relation to the Atlantic Holidays charters to Maderia??
yes sorry, had forgot they were charters.. found the article


New flights to Madeira for summer 2011 - Belfast International Airport

We are delighted that Atlantic Holidays have added Belfast to their list of departure airports and look forward to working closely with Atlantic Holidays and Monarch Airlines to expand the service.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 16:59
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More information on BFS-EWR. Charles Duncan, Vice President Transatlantic, Middle East and India at United Airlines, who was speaking at 'The Big Travel Trade Event,' organised by Northern Ireland Travel News...
The United Airlines' chief said he was "very concerned" by the tax and the fact that a family of four flying from Belfast currently had to pay £240 in tax to fly to the US.
But referring to recent speculative stories in the local Press regarding the future of the Belfast-New York service, he said: "We have no intention of withdrawing from the Belfast route. We have invested considerably in the service and we are proud to be here.
"We are seeing some traffic move to Dublin because of the taxation levels in Belfast and we are having a tough time right now because of this. We are anti-tax and are working with our partners to make the case against this tax."
He said that the airline was "very concerned" at any fall-off in demand caused by travellers bypassing the country (Northern Ireland) so as to avoide paying the tax. "The problem we have in Belfast is one which we do not have in other UK cities, the likes of Birmingham or Manchester."
However, he ended with a warning: "We are very committed to Belfast but we won't fly a route forever if we are losing money."
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Old 18th Jun 2011, 08:23
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RAF Globemaster

I think I saw a Globemaster of the RAF fly into Aldergrove at 0910!! What a nice machine.
Anyone know when it is due to leave to go back out or where it is to/from?

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Old 18th Jun 2011, 18:15
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There is obviously some serious demand for passengers traveling from Belfast to DUB; Translink and Bus Eireann have complemented their hourly Belfast - DUB - Dublin route 200 with a new non-stop Belfast - DUB 'X2' service. Departs Belfast at 0745, 0945, 1145, 1345, 1645 and 1845; takes 1h 45m direct to DUB.
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Old 18th Jun 2011, 19:36
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ara01jbb- would this be anything to do with the fact that from the start of the winter season last year AirCoach withdrew their quite frequent Belfast-Dublin route and it is only now that the demand is visible at the start of the summer holidays proper?

On a separate note Aer Lingus have cancelled a few flights from Dublin, however, no hotels available anywhere near Dublin to accomodate the stranded passengers, not sure what flights but 300 effected passengers. I see that Chicago (1250)cancelled and Heathrow (1700). Aer Lingus have made enquiries for Hotels near BFS so maybe , just maybe I am not sure, Chicago (if its the effected flight) could operate from BFS tomorrow???


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Old 18th Jun 2011, 19:50
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EI-BUD, re: Translink: it's possible, but a friend who is close to First Group's operations in Ireland explained to me last year that the Dublin / Belfast Aircoach suffered from low passenger numbers for most of its life, and almost never managed to cover its own costs. When times were good, its losses could be covered by the other more profitable Aircoach routes down south, but when the recession began to bite hard it was cheaper to close it down. Aside from the Aircoach "call centre" in Europa, First Group's only operation in NI is the BFS long term parking shuttle.
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Old 18th Jun 2011, 20:06
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On a separate note Aer Lingus have canceled a few flights from Dublin, however, no hotels available anywhere near Dublin to accommodate the stranded passengers, not sure what flights but 300 effected passengers. I see that Chicago (1250)canceled and Heathrow (1700). Aer Lingus have made inquiries for Hotels near BFS so maybe , just maybe I am not sure, Chicago (if its the effected flight) could operate from BFS tomorrow???
From what I herd the LHR passengers are being transfered onto other LHR flights this evening.

The 300 passengers are from the canceled Chicago flight due to a tec fault. Aircraft is grounded in Chicago until Sunday evening but it's not confirmed if the aircraft will depart then. So no Chicago departures until Monday at the earlist. Passengers being accomadted on other EI flight to US and onword with Untied. Some will wait until Monday to go also.

This is part of Bus Eireann ecpanding airport services. Only last week they announced a 9 times daily service from airprot to other regional cities in Ireland.

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Old 20th Jun 2011, 22:58
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BFS

Cityjet expected in tommorow from loudres??
I take it is a Cargo flight??
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Old 20th Jun 2011, 23:00
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No bringing passenger out and then brining others back to SNN.

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Old 20th Jun 2011, 23:15
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nice to see pax numbers on the rise again last month, although the citys was down showing that baby isnt making much of an impact
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Old 20th Jun 2011, 23:16
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Ash Cloud for a few days in May may be a factor.
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Old 20th Jun 2011, 23:25
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I would say BFS total PAX for this year will increase dramatically.
Due to things like; Heavy Snow, Ashcloud and Airport Strikes the PAX for last year dropped heavily. I would say that the numbers will get back up to 5 mil
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Old 20th Jun 2011, 23:29
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i cant see it being that big an increase, but next year with a full year of luton, manchester, southend and hopefully the start of aer lingus regional 2012 should be a very good year
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Old 20th Jun 2011, 23:34
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yeah sorry i thought last years was 4.5 million but its only 4 so i would guess around 4.6 mil

Yeah you are absolutly right, that is if the routes don't get cancelled like the Icelandic one. Its a shame that didn't start. i thought it was a great idea.

remember will still have december this year, i wonder if the weather will be as bed then. I heard it is to be worse than last years!
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