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ok, but to update you a little bit, last month the local press said that Ryanair will come to BCN in March to do MAD-BCN and rumours about setting up a base their. They have requested slots for Ibiza, Palma, Beauvais, etc..
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The proposal to base at least one FR aircraft in Malta has been on the table for some time. According to The Times of Malta, Ryanair is close to agreeing a long-term deal with the government to base one of its aircraft there.
Still no reliable hint on where will be located the first base in Central-Eastern Europe. So well guarded secret or the issue postponed again?
This aircraft is expected to operate on several new routes, including two in Spain and one in the Netherlands.
It is hoped the move will attract more visitors to Malta and sources said it was necessary because the trend among modern-day travellers was to go away more often but stay for fewer nights.
The sources said the government - not Ryanair - will have the final say on the routes serviced by the aircraft since it is keen to ensure that routes serviced by other carriers and tour operators are not adversely affected by this agreement. Ryanair agreed to this condition after initial opposition.
It is hoped the move will attract more visitors to Malta and sources said it was necessary because the trend among modern-day travellers was to go away more often but stay for fewer nights.
The sources said the government - not Ryanair - will have the final say on the routes serviced by the aircraft since it is keen to ensure that routes serviced by other carriers and tour operators are not adversely affected by this agreement. Ryanair agreed to this condition after initial opposition.
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Whens The Next 1p Sale?
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Maybe Ryanair felt that if people really want to like travel they would pay more than 1 cent.
Having said that the real 1 cent fares of the 2007 did get people flying. Might be a way of boosting the traffic as the economy in throughout europe begins to turn.
Having said that the real 1 cent fares of the 2007 did get people flying. Might be a way of boosting the traffic as the economy in throughout europe begins to turn.
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Yes, but how many people want to pay more than a penny to fly ryanair? Once their fares start to go up , then their customer service had better start to go up to match other companies, as is the case these days people mainly go by price, but if ryanair start getting high prices , people wont fly with them, people, pax , customers are fickle.
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@danielmellor, ara01jbb & alike
It requires no comments, but it is very symptomatic. Many pax all too often are turning their back on FR. Some might not want to fly just to a few destinations selected for them in the point-to-point system, some are outraged by distasteful publicity stunts. Others, like some my predecessors, are loyal, but aren't ready to pay as little as 10-20 pounds for a flight, waiting for one-penny offers. They just were educated to do so - will they ever agree to pay much more?
These "uneducated", among them potential new customers, are discouraged by unwise "atomization" of final flight prices. I mean if the prices are cheap (and usually are) there is no point in hiding the final price. Personally, I'm much more satisfied getting some discount in the supermarket before paying my bills and really hate the unexpected extras tending to give back the product if the final price is higher.
It requires no comments, but it is very symptomatic. Many pax all too often are turning their back on FR. Some might not want to fly just to a few destinations selected for them in the point-to-point system, some are outraged by distasteful publicity stunts. Others, like some my predecessors, are loyal, but aren't ready to pay as little as 10-20 pounds for a flight, waiting for one-penny offers. They just were educated to do so - will they ever agree to pay much more?
These "uneducated", among them potential new customers, are discouraged by unwise "atomization" of final flight prices. I mean if the prices are cheap (and usually are) there is no point in hiding the final price. Personally, I'm much more satisfied getting some discount in the supermarket before paying my bills and really hate the unexpected extras tending to give back the product if the final price is higher.
With an economy picking up, presumably the fly for free / 1 euro / 1 pound will be increasingly limited to mid-week and routes to cold places in winter ?
It might be worthwhile pointing out that someone on the FR board (Cawley ?) publicly stated that FR expect to raise fares in 2010, particularly post April. SkyEurope, MyAir and Globespan all ceased flying in the last 12 months - that translates into increased pricing power for FR
The LCC market in Europe is in any case looking as if it might be transitioning from a mid-game phase to an end-game phase. AB, U2 and FR are the dominant players. 4U are owned by another big company, LH. Thomson / TUI are a major company as well. The remainder are all small to medium sized operators each in their own little niche (e.g. flyBE, Monarch, Norwegian and Wizz). It is possible that the 2nd and 3rd tier airlines are going to either consolidate (i.e. merge, acquire or be acquired) or struggle to retain current profit margins while the bigger players take the richer pickings. If for example, FR were to expand heavily at Bologna in 2011, it is possible that WindJet may have to reassess their strategy
It might be worthwhile pointing out that someone on the FR board (Cawley ?) publicly stated that FR expect to raise fares in 2010, particularly post April. SkyEurope, MyAir and Globespan all ceased flying in the last 12 months - that translates into increased pricing power for FR
The LCC market in Europe is in any case looking as if it might be transitioning from a mid-game phase to an end-game phase. AB, U2 and FR are the dominant players. 4U are owned by another big company, LH. Thomson / TUI are a major company as well. The remainder are all small to medium sized operators each in their own little niche (e.g. flyBE, Monarch, Norwegian and Wizz). It is possible that the 2nd and 3rd tier airlines are going to either consolidate (i.e. merge, acquire or be acquired) or struggle to retain current profit margins while the bigger players take the richer pickings. If for example, FR were to expand heavily at Bologna in 2011, it is possible that WindJet may have to reassess their strategy
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Q3 results
Ryanair have just reported the 3rd qtr results. They lost 11 million euros in the qtr which is a lot better than the year before when they got their fuel hedging badly wrong. Revenue was up just 1% even though they carried about 12% more passengers.
Next year they will see about a 15% rise in fuel costs and low teens rise in pax. If they cannot keep seat prices up they could become loss making for a year as a whole. They also seem to have sold only 3-4 planes in 2009. They plan is they sell 10 in 2010 which could be hard given how may airlines are going down.
Next year they will see about a 15% rise in fuel costs and low teens rise in pax. If they cannot keep seat prices up they could become loss making for a year as a whole. They also seem to have sold only 3-4 planes in 2009. They plan is they sell 10 in 2010 which could be hard given how may airlines are going down.
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Ryanair to buy a stake in Brazilian airline Webjet? Hardly a strategic link up or a core business. Maybe a way to offload some of the old aircraft in the fleet?
Ryanair seeks stake in Brazilian airline - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Ryanair seeks stake in Brazilian airline - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
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Ryanair to buy a stake in Brazilian airline Webjet? Hardly a strategic link up or a core business. Maybe a way to offload some of the old aircraft in the fleet?
Ryanair seeks stake in Brazilian airline - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Ryanair seeks stake in Brazilian airline - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Or more likely a place to put some of the new deliveries more profitably. After all, if you think Webjet is going to need say 50 new aircraft over the next five years, isn't a modest equity stake a cheap price to pay for finding a home for some of your already aggressive order book?
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Yes it does Raceco, but what happen GPA? South America all ready has a Ryanair model for a number of years.Its a very hard market there when your not a local, sounds like getting rid of 73 orders to me. A sign the european market is saturated? P.S. I heard Ryanair are to hand back there PSO route Dublin Kerry since its losing so much money operating it.Dublin -Cork, Dublin-Kerry PSO, High Court Case about the Dublin-Knock PSO awarded to Aer Arann, Thats alot of Money wasted in trying to kill off another carrier on one route in a long term agenda,now that its gone form 5 to 3 dailys on the Dublin-Cork. I doubt 2 is profitable mid week.