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Old 17th Nov 2009, 19:58
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Balaton

Balaton is back in one of the booking engines with the route:
Krakow - Balaton.

No schedule seems to be loaded as of yet...
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Old 17th Nov 2009, 20:39
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I cannot see Krakow-Balaton working. If it's for the Summer season it would make much more sense to fly from a German airport to Balaton. Edinburgh-Tampere is also a route that's likely to last for weeks or a few months rather than years.
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I cannot see Krakow-Balaton working.
Well no, it's rather impossible. The news from last week says (it's translated automatically from Hungarian and partially corrected):
The district court of Zala County has put the Cape Clear Aviation, the company that operates the Balaton Airport FlyBalaton Sármellék, under liquidation.
The company [said previously] that it would close FlyBalaton in winter [and wanted to open it again] in April 2010. In 2008, appr. 120,000 passengers still flew to and from Sármellék, but [last year] only 15,000 passengers were left.
So Balaton Airport is going to be closed.
Edinburgh-Tampere is also a route that's likely to last for weeks or a few months rather than years.
Who nows? After all, it will be the first and only direct connection between Scotland and Finland. But of course, from the Finnish point of view, ANY route from TMP to the Southern beaches (or some shorter like SXF) would succeed unquestionably, EDI will have to prove itself.

(Balaton)
Edit: I've bothered with the Hungarian translation quite unnecessary, here is the link to the English-language text. There is obviously an option that the airport will run in spite of the bankruptcy, but somehow I doubt it.

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Who nows? After all, it will be the first and only direct connection between Scotland and Finland.
Actually Finnair operated a summer only 2 x weekly HEL - EDI flight with A319 for a couple of seasons which was dropped last year.

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Old 19th Nov 2009, 08:15
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This story from the Limerick Post indicates that Ryanair does seem to be pressing ahead with it's fleet reduction at SNN - pretty drastic stuff...

Ryanair axe 18 Shannon routes
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 10:28
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This story from the Limerick Post indicates that Ryanair does seem to be pressing ahead with it's fleet reduction at SNN
This story is based entirely on the website's booking engine for Summer 2010.
And yes the schedules are pretty scant. However to operate what is in the booking engine they will need 2 aircraft. And it is very possible that routes like Charleroi, Alicante, Birmingham, Bristol, Prestwick etcetera will end up being operated by aircraft based at those airports.
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 10:33
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Today's Examiner appears to indicate that it has been confirmed by Ryanair

http://www.irishexaminer.com/busines...es-105931.html

Although it also refers to transferring aircraft to bases in Holland and Ryanair don't have any bases there. Unless that means an Eindhoven base is planned.
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 11:10
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And it is very possible that routes like Charleroi, Alicante, Birmingham, Bristol, Prestwick etcetera will end up being operated by aircraft based at those airports.
Three weeks ago Ryanair's website was showing a daily flight from Bristol to Shannon in summer 2010 in both the booking engine and timetable sections, with times indicating it would be operated by a BRS-based aircraft - historically the route has been operated by a SNN-based aircraft.

On looking today there is now no availability in the booking engine for BRS-SNN next summer and the timetable for next summer is blank.
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 13:15
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Its that time of the month again.......Yawn.......
If you find it so tedious / boring / tiresome then don't read it
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 16:25
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AndyH52, I presumed ASFKAP was referring to his/her own post.
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FR @ BHX

Any chance that FR will be gracing BHX with any new routes in the future as it would seem its BHX base is on a down hill free fall slide into nothing, what a difference from when the base was first launched. Have FR fallen out with BHX or is BHX simply not performing as a base?
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 20:57
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O’Leary says deal with Boeing is ‘highly unlikely’

Irish Independent:
Ryanair Chief Executive Officer Michael O’Leary said a deal to buy new planes from Boeing is "highly unlikely."

He said talks with the aircraft company will end if a deal isn’t reached by the end of the month.

"We don’t bluster. We make threats and carry them out," O’Leary said at a press conference in Dublin today.
Hmm, looks like Boeing's not rolling over too easily, so we're into the last few days of hardball negotiation...
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This time last year talks with Greek Authorities came to a halt, but, in the last few days there has been alot of chatter in the papers and in greek aviation forums about ryanair's first routes in greece, volos - milan, volos - london/birmingham. Aparently an aggrement has been met, and the deal is waiting to be signed.
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 21:37
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Does Volos have an airport or would it be Neo Acholis (sorry I forget the spelling) AFB? I was fun mixing it with the Greeck F16s oh and their nets at the eastern end of the runway!
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Greece

Indeed, this article suggests Ryanair close to agreeing to fly from Volos to Milano or Bologna:
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Sorry, article only available in Greek. Use: Yahoo! Babel Fish - Text Translation and Web Page Translation

Volos airport:
International Airport of Central Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This is a totally new Airport. a much needed addition to central Greece. This could become the 3rd largest airport in Greece, large catchment area.

Official webpage of volos airport. -
Volos Nea Anchialos Airport of Central Greece
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Catalunya newspaper AVUI that Ryanair is going to start operations in the airport of Barcelona El Prat in Spring, to compete with Iberia, Spanair and Vueling in the world's busiest route: Madrid-Barcelona.


Ryanair entra a l'aeroport del Prat

L’aerolínia irlandesa de baix cost vol arribar a l’aeroport de Barcelona a la primavera i acaparar el pont aeri

Ryanair, la companyia irlandesa low cost, està ultimant el seu pla de treball per entrar a l’aeroport de Barcelona la primavera vinent, segons han explicat a l’AVUI fonts del sector, informació que l’aerolínia no ha desmentit. En arribar al Prat, Ryanair es bolcarà en el pont aeri, operació que anirà en detriment de Spanair, Vueling i, sobretot, Iberia, que fa uns dies va anunciar reducció de tarifes en aquesta ruta, per tal de revitalitzar l’única operació que fa al Prat.

Abaratir les taxes, o tenir un descompte del 100% com s’ha fet en alguns aeroports de l’Estat, era una de les premisses que demanava Ryanair a Aena per entrar a Barcelona, juntament amb la no utilització de fínguers o d’autobusos i permetre que els passatgers caminessin per la pista fins a arribar a l’avió.

En aquest sentit, fonts consultades d’Aena asseguren que “aquestes condicions continuen sent inacceptables, tal com es va comunicar a l’aerolínia irlandesa fa uns mesos, quan aquesta va expressar la seva intenció de situar-se al Prat”. Les mateixes fonts asseguren que en cas de venir a Barcelona “tindran les mateixes condicions que la resta d’aerolínies”.

Tarifes especials
Ryanair té tarifes aeroportuàries especials als aeroports de Girona i Reus, però a Barajas, on també està present, les taxes que abona són les mateixes que s’apliquen a la resta d’aerolínies i els seus passatgers no accedeixen als avions caminant. A Barcelona serà el mateix.

Fonts d’Aena també expliquen que, en cas que Ryanair s’instal·li al Prat, “fins al febrer tenen temps d’informar-nos”, perquè els slots [les franges horàries dels avions per aterrar i enlairar-se] es demanen a Brussel·les, on es troben els estaments aeronàutics europeus, i tenen fins a finals de desembre per sol·licitar operar des del Prat del 28 de març al 31d’octubre del 2010. Aena també va confirmar que Ryanair se situaria a la terminal 2 del Prat, destinada a companyies de vols punt a punt i xàrters.
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Don`t they have a very good rail link now as well which has caused passenger numbers to drop greatly on air route

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Barca - Madrid trains run regularly throught the day, take about 3 hours and cost from 41 Euros to about 140 Euros in Tourist Class
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Don`t they have a very good rail link now as well which has caused passenger numbers to drop greatly on air route
Indeed, but Ryanair will be a lot cheaper than the train.
Not exactly a similar example but look at Cork - Dublin. Fares are often cheaper than the train, and depending on your final destination the plane can sometimes be the fastest option.
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