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Old 18th Mar 2012, 00:01
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That,Peter Nears, and the news that former members of the operating team at Teesside are now operating again leave me speechless. I fear that Tui will not push forward as they will see the same problems with their sevice as before with Teesside pushing forward towards the here today and gone tomorrow Locos.
It would appear that Peel like the one copy of the Financial Times and a Latte rather that ice cream and sticky buns for the kids,a Pint for Dad and a glass of white wine or a fruit based drink for the lady brigade.
No prizes for guessing where the most profit in the Terminal Building is.
ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER THESE PORTALS.
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 00:26
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There is no hard evidence to disprove that some of the extra pax at NCL were gained from MME either.

I agree that residents of Middlesborough, Darlington etc are unlikely to fly from NCL instead of MME to AMS, however is it possible that people who live approx equal distance from both airports were swayed to NCL over MME because of the passenger charge at MME?

In addition the uncertainty over the future at MME could also be a factor that has affected bookings. Timings, road/rail access? I really dont know the answer.
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 09:36
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I live half way between the two. Ten years ago, MME was the preference if a choice of flights available. Now, there is no contest; if I need to go to Schiphol, it's NCL. In comparison, MME terminal is a hole, staff are surly, and I just don't want the tax hassle (plus the walk in the wind and rain across the apron, etc., etc.).

Even if there was a London service now, I'd still plump for NCL (or the train) for the same reasons. What's more, the interlining choices from NCL are now so much better - SN, LH, AF, etc, so it's not just the AMS connection that is important in deciding which airport to use.
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 13:52
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Our UK base is mid way between MME and NCL, and when connecting back on KLM I would prefer MME as it's much easier to come back through and the connection times are marginally better through AMS. Unfortunately, the fares always seem to be a good £20-£30 more per person therefore it doesn't make sense to do that option once adding the departure tax onto it as well and the lack of ease to get to Darlington train station to catch the train back north.

I'd love to see Peel Investments make a good go of it this time, I can only hope that it is a different management structure at Peel's end though otherwise it could end up being the same old story that we saw last time around...

Here's hoping that it can remain a viable business, if for nothing else but the 130+ staff who work there, amongst which I have the pleasure of knowing a lot of them.

-HD-
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 11:41
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South side farm land?

Anybody know what happened to the farms which were up for sale on the south side? Peel had been looking at them to go with their free cargo centre land? Did Peel buy them in the end?
Went through DTV on a KLM flight last week and the place looked like a ghost town!
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 19:40
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Still here??

withdrawal symptoms...are we still open ?? anything happenning or have the lights been switched off ??
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 12:12
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Councils give it away!

I wonder if the councillors are members of the same lodge again?

Peel get their way of the council share reduction. The clock is ticking on what happens next. No way have Peel spent £20m since 2003

Councils' share of Durham Tees Valley Airport slashed - Local News - News - Gazette Live
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 15:00
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I don't always agree with your posts, but I feel that your cynicism is looking more like reality.
I think dwelling on the amount that Peel have "claimed" to have spent is now moving the debate up a blind alley. Unfortunately it is now history & reality is that Peel now have full control as to what they choose to do with the airport. In having control of in excess of 75% of the new company's shares then any resolution they choose to introduce can be carried at a general meeting, with any remaining representation from the various councils ignored at will.
Interestingly the article states :-
It has resulted in concerns that the councils will lose their say in any development on land at the site.
Interestingly councillor Jim Beall, Stockton Councilís deputy leader, in quoting :-
....Regardless of the level of shareholdings, the local planning authorities continue to control the use of the land,......
, then councillor Beall must surely have missed the plot with this quote. Indeed today is the first day that the Governments new& more open planning reforms come into effect.
Coincidentally the article goes no to quote
Peel Airports Limited are meeting with local authority leaders and mayors and Tees Valley Unlimited, possibly this week
Now one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to work out what is now suddenly on the agenda
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 16:20
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Its been an interesting time trying to keep Teesside open.

Is it legal for a company to gift itself the large parcel of land on the south side of the runway to their own company?

The councils should hang their heads in shame for allowing it to take place.
In 2003 the local councils owned 100% of Teesside Airport...Peel becomes a partner with outlandish promises, and hey presto after some clever company share deals the councils now own nothing, well 11%

Stockton council will no doubt benefit greatly from all council tax revenue if they allow houses to be built similar to another Ingleby Barwick estate...when the recession is over
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 17:48
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Is it legal for a company to gift itself the large parcel of land on the south side of the runway to their own company?
Yes - it's called 'asset stripping'.
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 18:28
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Northbound A1 - yes it is legal for a company to gift itself a large parcel of land on the south side of the runway to themselves, but what is most definitely not legal, is moving the fence on the quiet to include more land than declared...
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 19:35
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Thankfully we still have a Land Registry !!
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 22:37
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Teeside Airport station was the least used 2010-2011. Absolutely no relation to airport's difficulties as service is deliberately crap.
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Old 30th Mar 2012, 17:16
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It's only served by two trains per week, that might be why?
Plus, it's a good mile away from the airport terminal!
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Old 30th Mar 2012, 19:48
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quote: "Teeside Airport station was the least used 2010-2011. Absolutely no relation to airport's difficulties as service is deliberately crap."

quote: "It's only served by two trains per week, that might be why?
Plus, it's a good mile away from the airport terminal
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The joys of an integrated transport system. Actually it's a disgrace, but regretably common up and down the country.

Doubtless because politicians and bureaucrats tend to be allergic to common sense, and/or don't use public transport.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 10:43
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It needs a pasty shop there
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 17:02
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It needs a pasty shop there
I'd prefer a pastie shop !
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 00:18
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I was reluctant to post this as there is too much bad news comes out of DTVA, but I suppose it'll get published sooner or later so might as well be now.

KLM are dropping one, possibly two, of the weekend rotations, if memory serves I think it's the Saturday 1535/1536/1539 and the Sunday 1530.

It won't have a massive effect on pax numbers though as these services have been running practically empty for years anyway.
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 13:03
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To think what the numbers were back in 2006.
Its like a ghost town today.
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 14:55
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Those KLM flights were also stopped in the eighties for a bit and re-introduced.

I hear the farmer on the Southside has been given the land back that was to become the access road, the gas pipeline finished that access route off.
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