DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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I believe that DTV (MME) will soon be growing, before the end of 2011 with passengers. Network Rail have announced they have confirmed the Tees Metro, and a half hourly service will go to the terminal, both towards Darlington & Saltburn. Further connections are available at Middlesbrough/Thornaby for the Hartlepool service to be up and running by mid-2011. Its looking brighter.
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The Metro service means sweet F/A. No good it bringing passengers for flights that don't exist.
What could be considered as "it's looking brighter" - I had a chat with someone working at DTVA today who says the airport will never close, because if Peel tried to close it, the RAF would step in and stop it. Now I know the opinion of one person doesn't really count much, but there are quite a few people who seem to share this view?
What could be considered as "it's looking brighter" - I had a chat with someone working at DTVA today who says the airport will never close, because if Peel tried to close it, the RAF would step in and stop it. Now I know the opinion of one person doesn't really count much, but there are quite a few people who seem to share this view?
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we provide ATC for the Vale of York which is a RAF playground
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Interesting situation about to develop at LBA I believe. Ryanair have effectively pulled out of MAN because the airport would not let them fly for free.They have moved into LBA and one could suppose that the terms are highly advantageous for them if not free. Where does that leave Jet2 and even the charter companies? If they are not offered the same terms will they be looking for a new base 60 miles north with better weather than LBA, unlimited slots ,lots of parking at what has just been audited in the press as the least expensive in the country and a new metro system planned. Couple that with lots of apron parking when the flying school leaves and private flyers are priced out of the system and I give you the hottest expanding airport in the UK.......Teesside International.( I would really get rid of that DTV crap title as all the roadsigns from the West Yorkshire direction on the A1 still say Teesside and they know that Teesside is nowhere near as far north as Durham)
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Wow, I wish it was that simple. Not gonna happen I'm afraid. And Before anyone asks, what he means by "when the flying school leaves" is that the owner of CFS, Disley Aviation, has given the club two months to stand on its own two feet and break even - Disley won't be putting anymore cash in.
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The Metro issue is a red herring. I was told last week that of the pax which transit through NCL less than 10% arrive by Metro so even IF it ever got built AND anyone wanted to use it its not going to make a ha'peth of difference.
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Looks like Thomas Cook have now dropped both destinations from DTV next summer. That means there will be no flights to Palma and Reus from them. Palma is still served by Thomson though.
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Are you joking, seriously? The Metro is going ahead as I have been to a number of meetings with FOSCs (Hartlepool & Seaton group), and one of them have said they have had a meeting with Network Rail about the proposals, and its all going ahead as planned - along with the hartlepool transport interchange.
I also beg to differ about the amount of users on the T&W Metro... most, if not all of the trains I have been on have been standing room only - and i tell you thats quite a lot of trains.
Sorry, but from personal experience it seems the transit TO the airport is going ahead.
I also beg to differ about the amount of users on the T&W Metro... most, if not all of the trains I have been on have been standing room only - and i tell you thats quite a lot of trains.
Sorry, but from personal experience it seems the transit TO the airport is going ahead.
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I can't believe people here are so negative about the "Teesside Metro" project.
Ok so the airport gets a regular service, that will get next to zero passengers. On the face of it its pretty pointless right now. But whats the cost.
But to ANY airline, anytime in the near future, a regular connection to Darlington (for the mainline) and Middlesbrough (for its population) is going to be quite a big thing. Far more attractive than a poorly timed bus service or 1 train a week. A regular rail connection is a good selling point! One train a week will not sway anyone, a halfhourly, oreven hourly shuttle looks a lot better. Even if its not used, the fact its there is no bad thing in terms of the airport!
Looking at the state of MME now... ANY investment should be welcomed, because with all the negativity, you couldn't get a much worse connected airport than MME is now.
As for the statistics for the T&W metro, 10% sounds low, but i think the majority of people who use it, are meeting and greeting or working there. rather than travelling themselves.
Ok so the airport gets a regular service, that will get next to zero passengers. On the face of it its pretty pointless right now. But whats the cost.
But to ANY airline, anytime in the near future, a regular connection to Darlington (for the mainline) and Middlesbrough (for its population) is going to be quite a big thing. Far more attractive than a poorly timed bus service or 1 train a week. A regular rail connection is a good selling point! One train a week will not sway anyone, a halfhourly, oreven hourly shuttle looks a lot better. Even if its not used, the fact its there is no bad thing in terms of the airport!
Looking at the state of MME now... ANY investment should be welcomed, because with all the negativity, you couldn't get a much worse connected airport than MME is now.
As for the statistics for the T&W metro, 10% sounds low, but i think the majority of people who use it, are meeting and greeting or working there. rather than travelling themselves.
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OmgitsDave, having been involved for a number of years with the feasibility of the Metro I can say that when it happens I will be in Binns Window without trousers, sorry but it aint gonna happen, and the reason is simply there isn't the money available.
And IF there ever was, it won't save Peels airport, the reason for that being that most of the punters wont struggle with suitcases on the train, its much easier to stick 'em in the back of the car and lug 'em from the car park.Which was why the old rail halt was hardly ever used.
And IF there ever was, it won't save Peels airport, the reason for that being that most of the punters wont struggle with suitcases on the train, its much easier to stick 'em in the back of the car and lug 'em from the car park.Which was why the old rail halt was hardly ever used.
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This Metro thing is a red herring.There is little difference between the current rolling stock and a Metro and no one has ever used the current rail halt even when every train stopped there.
Picture the scene. Myself, my wife , complete with holiday hair do and two children leave our house. Walk 3/4 mile to the rail halt and board the Metro, dragging 4 suitcases and assorted hand luggage with us. Did I mention it was driving rain and hail? Pay £20 each way to travel to the airport which takes 35minutes and at the other end have a 1/4 mile walk to the terminal . The rain of course is now coming from a different direction , soaking what few parts are not already soaked.
Second scenario. We load the car, drive to the airport in 30 minutes. Unload near the terminal entrance thus saving the holiday hair do and pay £32.00 for two weeks parking , £8 less than the Metro fare.
The only thing missing are the flights to take me on holiday .
Metro ? I don't think so.
Picture the scene. Myself, my wife , complete with holiday hair do and two children leave our house. Walk 3/4 mile to the rail halt and board the Metro, dragging 4 suitcases and assorted hand luggage with us. Did I mention it was driving rain and hail? Pay £20 each way to travel to the airport which takes 35minutes and at the other end have a 1/4 mile walk to the terminal . The rain of course is now coming from a different direction , soaking what few parts are not already soaked.
Second scenario. We load the car, drive to the airport in 30 minutes. Unload near the terminal entrance thus saving the holiday hair do and pay £32.00 for two weeks parking , £8 less than the Metro fare.
The only thing missing are the flights to take me on holiday .
Metro ? I don't think so.
There was a time when all trains (4/hr) were met by an electric bus. The service was free and well used. It was cancelled as a cost cutting measure and service buses routed via the station. This was also cancelled as a cost cutting measure. I travelled to work via bus and train when memsahib wanted the car. Sadly this stopped many moons ago. The point is, I was not the only passenger. The system worked. This was in the days of 600,000 pax/yr.
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The buses were paid for by the regional development agency. When the grant ran out the bus stopped as it isn't / wasn't commercially viable. This whole public transit issue is not relevant. Over 90% of pax come3 and go by car and the end result is there isn't enough air traffic to make things work, its got bog all to do with anything else.
Airports primary purpose is to shift pax to where they want to go at a price they willpay whilst producing profits (not loads) for airlines. It just isn't happening.
Airports primary purpose is to shift pax to where they want to go at a price they willpay whilst producing profits (not loads) for airlines. It just isn't happening.
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Good public transport connections are important for inbound tourist and business traffic. Paarmo, I'm sure the car is the best option for you and many other local passengers, but we need to attract overseas-based passengers to fly into Teesside and be able to travel easily by public transport to Durham, York, Newcastle, etc.