Excelsis Airways
From the Evening Gazette - overwhelming enthusiasm...
In a statement, DTVA said: “We have met with Excelsis Airways to discuss their proposals and we look forward to receiving further information and details of the services they intend to introduce. We are, of course, in discussion on a regular basis with airlines on possible opportunities for services into London and other destinations and, despite the current economic difficulties, we remain committed to expanding services from Durham Tees Valley, both for business and leisure travellers.”
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Wasn't Jersey Airport scammed recently by a young lad who fooled them into thinking he was about to launch an airline, like some teenage Branson? Got as far as a "fruitful" meeting with them as I recall! 
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From BBC News...
The airport, near Darlington, lost services to London in 2006, when bmibaby axed its Heathrow route.
Excelsis Airways says it hopes to create several hundred jobs when it launches three flights a day to London City Airport from September.
Several hundred jobs to support three flights a day?? The list of jobs has quite clearly been copied from a Canadian website as they make references to Canadian air regulations and ramp workers are required to have an Ontario driving licence or out of province equivalent!!
Some of the jobs advertised made me smile..
uniforms & grooming executive - darlington, hq
functions: reporting to the manager, people this position manages the uniform function at excelsis.
Its all a big hoax!!!
The airport, near Darlington, lost services to London in 2006, when bmibaby axed its Heathrow route.
Excelsis Airways says it hopes to create several hundred jobs when it launches three flights a day to London City Airport from September.
Several hundred jobs to support three flights a day?? The list of jobs has quite clearly been copied from a Canadian website as they make references to Canadian air regulations and ramp workers are required to have an Ontario driving licence or out of province equivalent!!
Some of the jobs advertised made me smile..
uniforms & grooming executive - darlington, hq
functions: reporting to the manager, people this position manages the uniform function at excelsis.
Its all a big hoax!!!
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Excelsis :- I have never "bought" into this and to me in retrospect it becomes even more absurd. From talk about 737's in all exec. config. to now 4 x Dash 8.400's demonstrates a very fickle approach to this matter. Indeed the only complement I can make to the perpetrators(s) is well done to the obtaining of free publicity for their website irrespective as to it's purpose. Back to reality and surely the veil drawn over the real purpose of this can easily be lifted by the press or indeed anyone else paying a visit to "11/12 Pioneer Court"!
As for DTVA & their recent statement then I would suggest that in reality they too remain sceptical as the DTVA website currently makes no reference to this venture, and from experience due to the site being desperate for news, when even a pool full of newts can make headlines. Furthermore :-
suggests that DTV actually know very little themselves.
The whole concept is devoid of any business logic as one should never seek to market a product pre-contract, as it alerts others (possibly the real intention? Flybe..
) & it weakens ones bargaining position & drives up the price! Some one is taking the p**s big time ..it could only happen at DTV
As for DTVA & their recent statement then I would suggest that in reality they too remain sceptical as the DTVA website currently makes no reference to this venture, and from experience due to the site being desperate for news, when even a pool full of newts can make headlines. Furthermore :-
the airport stopped short of saying the new Excelsis service was a done deal..
The whole concept is devoid of any business logic as one should never seek to market a product pre-contract, as it alerts others (possibly the real intention? Flybe..
) & it weakens ones bargaining position & drives up the price! Some one is taking the p**s big time ..it could only happen at DTV
The press cannot even get the facts right ! it was bmi that ran the Heathrow flights not bmi baby and they pulled out earlier this year not in 2006, I would have hoped the Airport Sales and Marketing people could have put them straight on the facts but they are too useless to do even the simplest of tasks.
As long as Peel continue to let the current bunch of inept no hopers run MME there is only one direction the airport will go and the sad fact is that there is not much further to fall before closing down time.
The staff at MME did not deserve to be let down in such spectacular fashion by the MME management who are absolute
As long as Peel continue to let the current bunch of inept no hopers run MME there is only one direction the airport will go and the sad fact is that there is not much further to fall before closing down time.
The staff at MME did not deserve to be let down in such spectacular fashion by the MME management who are absolute
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I know that it is a shot in the dark, but I really believe that Excelsis could pull through - Grand Central did exactly the same with delays, false advertising etc...
I do realise that there is a SMALL market at DTV, but it is getting better to be honest - I went to Amsterdam Schiphol with KLM, and the flight was full (during school times)...
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I also believe that with the new Tees Metro which is coming soon, and if Northern decide to operate a regular service (or make the Saltburn - Darlington trains stop) to DTV, then its growth will be a lot quicker.
I do realise that there is a SMALL market at DTV, but it is getting better to be honest - I went to Amsterdam Schiphol with KLM, and the flight was full (during school times)...
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I also believe that with the new Tees Metro which is coming soon, and if Northern decide to operate a regular service (or make the Saltburn - Darlington trains stop) to DTV, then its growth will be a lot quicker.
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Don't just take my word for it. Go over to the "people" section of the Excelsis website. Pick a bit of text (leave out the word "excelsis"). I've grabbed a chunk from the second bullet point of the first job:
with the support of the broader sales team, implement process improvement, training, communication, change management tools and support mechanisms necessary to effectively increase
Ask yourself: if the likes of flyBE, with a strong brand and more Q400s than they know what to do with, aren't interested in having a go at a Teesside-London link, why would these guys have a hope, if they don't even know enough to figure out what positions they should be hiring for?
And finally - if you wanted to launch an airline in these difficult days, and get as much publicity as possible, would you really launch your website, then post a note on it saying
* note to editors* - please be aware that for operational reasons - and to protect the confidentiality of some of our partners - there will be no interviews - or further information about excelsis airways operations at this time.
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Pie in the sky. Only possibility of a start up is by using a handling agent. Only likely jobs for the area are cabin crew. Why bother with a website offering numerous jobs that will not be required
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Excelsis Airways
Not sure what to believe on this one - if its fake, they have the press fooled - if its real they might be ok with a DTV-LCY but not sure what their other three proposed planes will do if all based at DTV - cant see what other routes with business fares would work in this climate from here...........
However if it is a fake they have gone to a lot of trouble, on the Excelsis thread someone put on the companies address and registered company number - so being nosey i ran a check on it at companies house (free to do so no effort on my part) and i'll go to the foot of our stairs....on the companies house website its registered with the same address and was incorporated on 26th June 2009 and is an active company.
Now if its a school project they are going to a lot of trouble and a bit of expense (to register the company) to fool people or for a school/college/uni project.
Also by claiming they were a real company with premises on a real trading estate if this is all a project or a hoax then effectively are they not breaking a law by claiming to be registered at an address when they are not??
In my mind the jury is still out and i wouldnt bet either way at this stage.
However if it is a fake they have gone to a lot of trouble, on the Excelsis thread someone put on the companies address and registered company number - so being nosey i ran a check on it at companies house (free to do so no effort on my part) and i'll go to the foot of our stairs....on the companies house website its registered with the same address and was incorporated on 26th June 2009 and is an active company.
Now if its a school project they are going to a lot of trouble and a bit of expense (to register the company) to fool people or for a school/college/uni project.
Also by claiming they were a real company with premises on a real trading estate if this is all a project or a hoax then effectively are they not breaking a law by claiming to be registered at an address when they are not??
In my mind the jury is still out and i wouldnt bet either way at this stage.
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The problem is that there are so many inconsistencies with the excelsis scenario. This has been exacerbated by the updating of the website as people pick out the faults with the peoples page.Obviously someone is monitoring the chat rooms on this company and fixing the faults as people find them. Strange system for a pukkagen company.
The problem is that there are so many inconsistencies with the excelsis scenario. This has been exacerbated by the updating of the website as people pick out the faults with the peoples page.Obviously someone is monitoring the chat rooms on this company and fixing the faults as people find them. Strange system for a pukkagen company.
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False dawns
We had all this in Donny when Shaheen promised flights to Pakistan. But at least they did physically exist and turned up at LBA a year later, running flights for a couple of months before they were grounded.
And isn't there some putative airline supposed to be running flights from Cardiff that we are not supposed to mention on Pprune by pain of Death (I may have got the airport wrong here)
This Excelsis sounds cojones to me.
And isn't there some putative airline supposed to be running flights from Cardiff that we are not supposed to mention on Pprune by pain of Death (I may have got the airport wrong here)
This Excelsis sounds cojones to me.