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My guess for this announcement so far in advance is to "mark territory" as Ryanair recently mentioned they are interested in opening a base in Lisboa in 2011.
And my guess that Ryanair will announce that they wiil open a base in winter 2010/2011 or spring 2011 with some of the same routes and some other routes as well
And my guess that Ryanair will announce that they wiil open a base in winter 2010/2011 or spring 2011 with some of the same routes and some other routes as well
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Had an e mail from EasyJet saying that my flight from Hamburg to Manchester on Sunday 6th March 2011 has changed to an earlier time. The e mail was brief and stated the new times and my reference number, but there was no EasyJet logo or much more info.
I am departing Manchester to Hamburg on Thursday 3rd March, flight times I have on my original e mail and the times on the website are different, however, I have not had an e mail saying that the outbound flight times have changed?
Can anyone confirm the flight times for both flights please? I would ideally like to travel evening/early morning and back on the Sunday evening/late afternoon.
I am departing Manchester to Hamburg on Thursday 3rd March, flight times I have on my original e mail and the times on the website are different, however, I have not had an e mail saying that the outbound flight times have changed?
Can anyone confirm the flight times for both flights please? I would ideally like to travel evening/early morning and back on the Sunday evening/late afternoon.
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is it just me or is easyjet anti-north....? not one flight from any scottish airport to any canary island....there must be demand or jet2 wouldn´t have set up base in glasgow and FR fly loads of them...maybe its just me
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Nor from Northern Ireland.
However on the Belfast thread, it was discussed about the A319 possibly being limited on the Malta route due to range. Similarly could it be that EZY A319's couldn't routinely make it from GLA / EDI to the Canaries, without restrictions? Also EZY may not have available A320's to add Canary Island routes from Scotland and Northern Ireland. Combined this may lead to issues regarding longer sectors from these airports.
BFS also has EI doing TFS and ACE, and as you have stated FR from Scotland, along with the charters and soon LS, so maybe EZY feel this would lead to excess capacity.
However on the Belfast thread, it was discussed about the A319 possibly being limited on the Malta route due to range. Similarly could it be that EZY A319's couldn't routinely make it from GLA / EDI to the Canaries, without restrictions? Also EZY may not have available A320's to add Canary Island routes from Scotland and Northern Ireland. Combined this may lead to issues regarding longer sectors from these airports.
BFS also has EI doing TFS and ACE, and as you have stated FR from Scotland, along with the charters and soon LS, so maybe EZY feel this would lead to excess capacity.
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easyJet made a lot of money this year out of EDI and GLA due to flyglobespan bankrupt, but they prefered higher yield than growing and were not able to capture any developement opportunities (they also missed CPH etc). Now they have Jet2 face to face, it would be harder for them and may impact next year financial results.
I would never said that few years ago, but I feel a general trend in the aviation at the moment is lccs are getting less performant, but network carriers are back in the game. As an example, three american carriers announced big profits for Q3, whereas they are facing huge low cost domestic competition. It's all about capacities reduction, mergers/alliances/joint business, premium market. I feel than in europe (at the exception of airfrance), network carriers are in a lot better shape than before the crisis.
I may be wrong, but I guess than soon, Lufthansa or BA would be more profitable than easyJet or Air berlin!
I would never said that few years ago, but I feel a general trend in the aviation at the moment is lccs are getting less performant, but network carriers are back in the game. As an example, three american carriers announced big profits for Q3, whereas they are facing huge low cost domestic competition. It's all about capacities reduction, mergers/alliances/joint business, premium market. I feel than in europe (at the exception of airfrance), network carriers are in a lot better shape than before the crisis.
I may be wrong, but I guess than soon, Lufthansa or BA would be more profitable than easyJet or Air berlin!
To be fair EZY are offering EDI-PFO from this Winter. It does, of course, all come down to the availability of the A320's. More will be delivered over the next few months and it is the A320 that would be required to do such routes as the EZY 319 examples do not have the capability.
That said, just because Easyjet isn't launching Scotland-Canaries doesn't mean that they are "anti-north". Although it's certainly not rare to have pax from Scotland do make their way to MAN to use such Easyjet routes.
That said, just because Easyjet isn't launching Scotland-Canaries doesn't mean that they are "anti-north". Although it's certainly not rare to have pax from Scotland do make their way to MAN to use such Easyjet routes.
H&S...... your comments do hold some water. We are now reaching a stage of maturity in the low cost market. The strongest have survived and we will now see changes in strategy that will eventually change some of the key characteristics of the LCC model. For several years now certain airlines have already been breaking the traditional LCC mold. AB joining an alliance and EZY's focus on Primary airports and frequency. Meanwhile, at the other end of the spectrum the legacies have devalued their product to some extent and the whole gap between full service and low cost is becoming and will continue to become ever blurred.
Some of the legacies are coming through a tough period relatively well. I'm primarily thinking LH. BA etc aren't quite so lucky. But then Easyjet have performed extremely well. During what has been the deepest depression since the 1920's, they have not only increased pax numbers but also increased yields too. Jet 2 have become very "charter" of late and the two only serious players in the LCC market within Europe are EZY and FR. The market was always going to arrive at this eventuality, it was the game plan if you like. In maturity however we could see EZY (and even FR) adopting a whole new way forward.
I know many would love nothing better than to see the end of the Low cost carriers but it really isn't going to happen. The legacies are adopting more and more low cost attributes and it wouldn't surprise me if the two sides of the spectrum ended up meeting somewhere in the middle.
Some of the legacies are coming through a tough period relatively well. I'm primarily thinking LH. BA etc aren't quite so lucky. But then Easyjet have performed extremely well. During what has been the deepest depression since the 1920's, they have not only increased pax numbers but also increased yields too. Jet 2 have become very "charter" of late and the two only serious players in the LCC market within Europe are EZY and FR. The market was always going to arrive at this eventuality, it was the game plan if you like. In maturity however we could see EZY (and even FR) adopting a whole new way forward.
I know many would love nothing better than to see the end of the Low cost carriers but it really isn't going to happen. The legacies are adopting more and more low cost attributes and it wouldn't surprise me if the two sides of the spectrum ended up meeting somewhere in the middle.
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The simple fact of Scotland is this. You can go from LGW to the canaries in about 30 - 45 minutes less than from EDI / GLA. That is an hour to an hour and a half less on an airframe and crew to operate to the same destination. That is a lot more coffees to sell to make the same amount for the resources given to the flight.
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Undoubtedly that's true, but the same applies to flying to most European destinations from Scotland but EZY nevertheless do operate many European routes from EDI and GLA.
Following GSMs demise, EZY had signed up to add an A320 at GLA back in spring, flying to the likes of the Canaries, but pulled out at the last minute and sent the aircraft to LGW when EI pulled most of their LGW ops. Although I believe GLA had and A320 swapped for one of its A319s over the summer peak, fares were still very high.
Despite one or two new routes at relatively low frequency, EZY haven't really added anything significant in Scotland for ages. Either they are not really interested or they have been caught out by the speed of FRs expansion, particularly at EDI and haven't been willing/able to respond.
Whilst it is obviously a case of business first and new routes must pay their way, it is a shame that the pax in Scotland, who gladly supported EZY when it was in its infancy on GLA-LTN in the 90s, are now being bypassed when it comes to expansion. FR clearly feel they can make money by expanding in Scotland, so why do EZY seemingly feel they can't?
Following GSMs demise, EZY had signed up to add an A320 at GLA back in spring, flying to the likes of the Canaries, but pulled out at the last minute and sent the aircraft to LGW when EI pulled most of their LGW ops. Although I believe GLA had and A320 swapped for one of its A319s over the summer peak, fares were still very high.
Despite one or two new routes at relatively low frequency, EZY haven't really added anything significant in Scotland for ages. Either they are not really interested or they have been caught out by the speed of FRs expansion, particularly at EDI and haven't been willing/able to respond.
Whilst it is obviously a case of business first and new routes must pay their way, it is a shame that the pax in Scotland, who gladly supported EZY when it was in its infancy on GLA-LTN in the 90s, are now being bypassed when it comes to expansion. FR clearly feel they can make money by expanding in Scotland, so why do EZY seemingly feel they can't?
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easyJet have never had Scotland as a focus.
GLA
Germany 1 Berlin
UK 5 Luton, Stansted (ex GO), Gatwick, Bristol (ex GO), Belfast
(EMA dropped)
Netherlands 0 Amsterdam dropped
Spain 4 Alicante, Ibiza, Malaga, Alicante
France 1 Paris CDG
Portugal 1 Faro
Switzerland 1 Geneva
Off this GVA, IBZ, AGP and PMI are seasonal.
It's not huge for fifteen years of service but unlike certain other bases that saw good growth then died, it seems to be stable up against lots of Thomas Cook and Thomson on the IT front. GLA does badly for UK city breaks though.
GLA
Germany 1 Berlin
UK 5 Luton, Stansted (ex GO), Gatwick, Bristol (ex GO), Belfast
(EMA dropped)
Netherlands 0 Amsterdam dropped
Spain 4 Alicante, Ibiza, Malaga, Alicante
France 1 Paris CDG
Portugal 1 Faro
Switzerland 1 Geneva
Off this GVA, IBZ, AGP and PMI are seasonal.
It's not huge for fifteen years of service but unlike certain other bases that saw good growth then died, it seems to be stable up against lots of Thomas Cook and Thomson on the IT front. GLA does badly for UK city breaks though.
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thanks for all your comments to my post, i will keep my eyes peeled to see what happens, i suppose for now the cheapest option is still to fly from TFS-LGW or MAN then onwards, FR are ok to PIK but times and the location add a lot of extra cost on which make it not worthwhile.
thanks again guys and girls for your thoughts
thanks again guys and girls for your thoughts
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Midlands nil
easyJet have never had Scotland as a focus
I think you fair a little better than the midlands not one base we must use the wrong soap oh sorry we get a couple of ski routes in winter from bhx
I think you fair a little better than the midlands not one base we must use the wrong soap oh sorry we get a couple of ski routes in winter from bhx
We are now reaching a stage of maturity in the low cost market. The strongest have survived and we will now see changes in strategy that will eventually change some of the key characteristics of the LCC model.
What we are and have been seeing is a retrenchment due to a sustained and long recession BUT the crucial thing is that they never last for ever, which is easy to say when a potential double dip is possible.
People stop spending money in a recession because of fear and a lack of confidence of what is around the corner added in with wholescale restructing across vast swathes of industry.
The key thing will be the airlines and companies that are ready for growth and which have capacity and flexibility to move quickly. These could be the big winners in the long term, the reason could is because if companies judge it too soon then potentially they will spend before people are ready for it.
People forget a vile recession in the 80's then years of growth, same in 90's and same now. Its just the time between last and now was longer which meant people forgot about it.
I think U2 and FR are well placed, I'm not convinced the legacies are because when thing are getting better you will have Unions demanding back what they gave up.