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Old 8th May 2014, 12:15
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According to your chart, the Pound was much stronger in 2007, hence you'd have more Euros to spend when you're in Alicante. There was a mini peak in mid 2012, but it's dropped off again.The Pound is much weaker now and you'd get less Euros to spend when you're in sunny Alicante. You're getting less bang for your bucks if you want to spend in Europe, having exchanged your sterling for less Euros. Although, it's good if you're coming from Europe to holiday in the UK.

GnRdl - doesn't the chart showing weekly U2 Alicante frequencies show capacity on the increase again in Feb?

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Old 8th May 2014, 12:50
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In peak season, Easyjet operates 10 round trips between London and Alicante. How many more flights should Easyjet operate on this city pair ?

I imagine Alicante is probably quite a peaky market - great on Saturdays in August, but not quite so in demand on a Wednesday in May. Perhaps better to deploy aircraft, crew and slots on routes which have more stable demand throughout the summer ?
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Old 8th May 2014, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Airlift21
According to your chart, the Pound was much stronger in 2007, hence you'd have more Euros to spend when you're in Alicante. There was a mini peak in mid 2012, but it's dropped off again.The Pound is much weaker now and you'd get less Euros to spend when you're in sunny Alicante. You're getting less bang for your bucks if you want to spend in Europe, having exchanged your sterling for less Euros. Although, it's good if you're coming from Europe to holiday in the UK.
Yes, but we should compare 2014 with 2013. In 2007 the economic bubble was about to explode.

In 2014 there seems to be a slow but steady recovery of the Pound (vs Euro).

Originally Posted by Airlift21
GnRdl - doesn't the chart showing weekly U2 Alicante frequencies show capacity on the increase again in Feb?
In the chart two valleys are observed in periods when demand falls. But it is a reduction that overlaps previous seasons. The number of frequencies in February 2015 are equated to February 2014.

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In peak season, Easyjet operates 10 round trips between London and Alicante. How many more flights should Easyjet operate on this city pair ?
8 daily flights with a peak of 10 on saturdays.

But I'm not talking only about London. Other British cities like Belfast, Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle are going to see reduced its offer during the coming winter.
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Old 8th May 2014, 15:51
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As regards the Pound-Euro ratio I can tell you that the rate today here in southern Spain at a bank is 1.18. At a Cambio (change) it is 1.16 and has been around the 1.14-1.18 for some months. If you can get the inter-bank rate it is just short of 1.22.
Alicante Airport had an increase of 7.6 per cent on its passenger figures for April compared to last year with all the main Spanish airports showing major increases including Malaga 13 per cent and Barcelona 11 per cent.
The idiot who mentioned shell suits please grow up if you can they went out many years ago and don´t grace us with your presence we have enough trouble with idiotic Brits, just last week someone decided it might be a good idea to cross the main A7 Marbella road by walking - did not make it unfortunately!
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Old 8th May 2014, 17:30
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Not sure what the issue is with UK-ALC, if U2 can use their aircraft on more profitable routes then that is the role of management to decide to do so.
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Old 8th May 2014, 21:43
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I travel to alicante every month and i am disapointed at easyjets lack of flights in the winter months. I visit for the weekend and have found it impossible to visit my flat at weekends as i work on sat. I cant understand why they cave in to ba and norwegian, i like easyjet and want to be loyal but it is imposible now for me to use my appartment as their are no evening flights on sat
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Old 8th May 2014, 22:26
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
Alicante Airport had an increase of 7.6 per cent on its passenger figures for April compared to last year with all the main Spanish airports showing major increases including Malaga 13 per cent and Barcelona 11 per cent.
9,6% and not 7,6%.

April 2014:
− Adolfo Suárez Madrid-Barajas: +7,6% (3,4 million passengers).
− Barcelona-El Prat: +10,8% (3,1 million passengers).
− Canarias: +17,1% (3,0 million passengers).
− Baleares: +6,1% (2,1 million passengers). +5,5% Palma de Mallorca.
− Málaga-Costa del Sol: +12,8% (1,2 million passengers).
− Alicante-Elche: +9,6% (0,9 million passengers).
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Old 8th May 2014, 23:05
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I travel to alicante every month and i am disapointed at easyjets lack of flights in the winter months. I visit for the weekend and have found it impossible to visit my flat at weekends as i work on sat. I cant understand why they cave in to ba and norwegian, i like easyjet and want to be loyal but it is imposible now for me to use my appartment as their are no evening flights on sat
Quit your moaning...

easyJet are not a public service, they will fly where/when the demand deems it, and where they can get maximum profitability of their planes.

How many flights do you want? They operate 14 a week from the London airports, 5 from Bristol, 4 from Liverpool, 2 from Manchester, Belfast and Edinburgh and 3 a week from Newcastle and Glasgow!

The UK to Alicante market is saturated and easyJet have obviously decided to adjust their schedules accordingly. They clearly don't want to enter price war!

A simple answer is, if easyJet do not fly on the day you want, choose another carrier that does!

The mainland Spain resorts in winter are depressing place, and surprised there is even that demand! The weather barely gets above 15'C in December and January and regularly rains, its barely a Winter Sun destination! I would much rather fly over Spain and continue on south for another two hours and arrive in the Canaries, as would many other people, hence why carriers focus a lot of capacity on these routes.

I notice Thomson don't even operate an ALC flight from Luton anymore, at anytime of the year. Shows they have better places to fly to than that hell hole called Benidorm, and the English enclave of Torrevieja where Brits go to live and refuse to learn the local language or way of life!
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Old 9th May 2014, 04:36
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Sorry Giles wrong again, Spain in winter or anytime for that matter is not depressing it is rather nice I can asure you. That is why millions of north Europeans travel to the southern parts of the country and spend the winter months here - equivalent of the Canadian snow bunnies moving to the southern US. Granted it can get get cold (lowest on the Costa del Sol 5 deg at night) but no frost or ice to contend with.
Agree if you really want almost guaranteed good weather go on to the Canaries or Egypt is a much better bet but I know where I would rather be on a November morning - not in Milton Keynes, Canterbury or Walsall!
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Old 9th May 2014, 06:52
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Originally Posted by gilesdavies
I notice Thomson don't even operate an ALC flight from Luton anymore, at anytime of the year. Shows they have better places to fly...
Thomson? I don't remember this airline operating the route.

In any case, the charter traffic in Alicante is a minority. Most tourists organize their holiday on their own, in addition to a large number of foreign residents (120.000 British residents in 2013).

Originally Posted by gilesdavies
The UK to Alicante market is saturated and easyJet have obviously decided to adjust their schedules accordingly. They clearly don't want to enter price war!
They will know, of course. But sun destinations like ALC, AGP, PMI, etc. are core routes for many European airlines. One step back and another airline will gain ground fidelizing passengers...

Originally Posted by gilesdavies
How many flights do you want? They operate 14 a week from the London airports, 5 from Bristol, 4 from Liverpool, 2 from Manchester, Belfast and Edinburgh and 3 a week from Newcastle and Glasgow!
Some of them are ridiculous. 2xw to MAN? Come on baby...
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Old 9th May 2014, 07:07
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Alicante

BFS has 12 weekly flights to ALC during peak summer (7 EZY, 4 LS and 1 TCX) and winter 13/14 just passed 5 flights per week.

Quite sufficient for a population of least than two million

Maybe this should be on an ALC thread
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Old 9th May 2014, 07:15
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
BFS has 12 weekly flights to ALC during peak summer (7 EZY, 4 LS and 1 TCX) and winter 13/14 just passed 5 flights per week. Quite sufficient for a population of least than two million
Yes. And next winter season 2xw (-1xw EZY and -2xw EXS)... enough?

pd. TCX doesn't operate anymore.
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Old 9th May 2014, 08:41
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Anyone have any info. on how the Gatwick - Jersey service is doing?

I travelled on it in late April & both loads were about 75 - 80 pax.
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Old 9th May 2014, 10:53
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I find my place in alicante is beautiful out of sealn i dont go to sit in the sun. Their is a wealth of birdlife and the pleasure of walking along a beach in 15* rather than 6 here is good. I sm severley asthmatic and the winter there is much nicer than here. We dont all want to get fried. I dont ask for more flights just more evenly spaced would be nice
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Old 10th May 2014, 09:57
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The jersey routes were quiet in April as the fly b e aircraft held around 75-80 pax, . I was on flight yesterday and it was 156 returning from JER at 0710 and was 156 today on the 0640 flight. The crew said they were overbooked in the next 2 flights they were doing to JER. So must be going ok for them!
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Old 10th May 2014, 13:25
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Thank you Ramper,

Having just gained this service I was a little concerned at the prospect of keeping it with the two loads being so low on my flights !
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Old 10th May 2014, 15:59
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LGW- JER

I've taken two trips down to JER during April ( not over Easter, mind) and there were full loads each time.
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Old 10th May 2014, 16:08
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Looking good, then. Sigh of relief !
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Old 11th May 2014, 20:32
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Had a look for you:

LGW-JER bookings for tomorrow: 144,130,138

JER-LGW bookings for tomorrow: 73,71,80
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Old 11th May 2014, 20:43
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I wonder how BA are doing in comparison with twice as many flights to fill?
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