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Old 31st Mar 2012, 09:52
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New routes from MAN for winter 2012?


Do you happen to have any idea when new EZY routes are to be announced for winter 2012 and is which ones are likely candidates? Assuming MAN gets another aircraft that is.


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Old 31st Mar 2012, 23:04
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Thanks easyflyer83. I take your point about limited forewarning of new routes. Hopefully we will get aircraft number 7 but who knows in this business. It really does seem to chop and change depending on all sorts of factors. As far as MAN is concerned this really reinforces that they have the right strategy of not putting too many eggs in one basket. Cheers, DomyDom
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Old 2nd Apr 2012, 15:10
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Re- LTN base winter 2012/13, the only recent info. I have heard is Luton-Tel Aviv increasing from daily to 9 pw.

This service seems to be very successful for EZJ despite El Al being well-entrenched on the route.

At present EZJ seem to have around 15-16 airframes overnighting with another 4 arriving early morning and turning around.

Sorry I can't offer more help!
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Old 2nd Apr 2012, 16:41
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Thanks for the info
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Old 2nd Apr 2012, 19:51
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Sorry, it wasn't a publicly released brief, it was internal so you wouldn't be able to find anything. The crux of it was that growth would mainly be at Gatwick and in France. That Russia was a place of interest and that two LCC were being considered for acquisition.

The person saying this all is in a position to know!
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Old 3rd Apr 2012, 08:40
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La Amistad,

Thanks for the info.
Must of missed that internal comms unless it only went to certain depts.
But thanks again for the update.
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Old 3rd Apr 2012, 12:21
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Wasn't an email. It was told to a mate during a SEP type brief.
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Old 3rd Apr 2012, 16:26
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Sorry spice I miss your point? I don't want to say exactly who said it. To whom. Where and when....mainly because I don't want to make it obvious who I might be!

If you don't believe me, then thats fine. I don't care. Different managers turn up to different places and say different things!

Just because you weren't told doesn't mean someone didn't say it.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 06:30
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The C-series is projecting 15% cash operating economics on 20% better fuel burnsto current a/c. Somewhere hidden in the small print is the issue that the purchase price or the trip costs are higher than the A320neo or 737max... i'm not sure which one.

The best aircraft of all for LCC ops (on 2-4 hour sectors) is the 737-800max when you look at cost per seat, cost per trip and cost per a/c acquisition. The term 'pile them high sell them cheap' is there for a reason! But I can't see easyJet going back to boeing after having ditched them only a while ago.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 10:22
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Depends who offers the best financial deal!!
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 11:09
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Easyjet ditched Boeing years ago......just because it was only last year that the last 737 was withdrawn.

I agree though, it is Airbus' order to lose.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 11:29
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Ignoring the people who just want to say "I don't believe you in different ways" and if anyone cares:

Where does everyone think the Russia routes would go from/to. LGW-Moscow seems fairly obvious.
Which airlines might provide a nice fit to EZY? Flybe seems to keep getting mentioned?

P.S easy and others before you get your knickers in a twist I am not saying we are buying airlines....merely that APPARENTLY someone is looking at it!!! This isn't a case of Chinese rumours, its stuff that came from someone who would know. I mentioned it in the hopes of stimulating interesting discussion about the information, not about the valididty of it.

If we wait and see whats the point in having a rumour network and discussion board??? Makes it a bit boring without rumours really!!!!!!!

As an aside days before we bought GB Airways Andy Harrison stood and told a room full of people that we would never buy another airline. Days later.....!!

P.P.S I don't want to fly the boeing again and can't be bothered with another type rating so my vote is for the NEO! Can the C series carry the same pax as a 320 though?
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 12:55
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I think Russia has been on the cards for a while. Moscow from LGW and maybe MAN from the UK and Paris, Milan and Geneva from Europe?

Its interesting because galley FM has been banding Flybe's name around regarding some kind of deal/takeover!!!

Just to add fuel to it all, the rumour is to get everything into one terminal in LGW and share it with Virgin. Don't virgin keep talking about doing Europe and domestic routes?? Not a LCC though but still an interesting thought! I would be amazed if that happened though!

Baby has also been mentioned also but I would be very very surprised if we bought them.

Monarch maybe?

Maybe a eastern European LCC? Someone already with the Airbus??

Interesting times though!!

Oh and can I please add my vote to the NEO order!! Although the C series flight deck looks quite cool!
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 13:51
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La Amistad.....please don't take offence. I too have a gut feeling that something is brewing. I don't necassarilly believe it's a takeover but remember that one of the conentious issues with Stelios was that of brand relationships. Since the issue was resolved we have seen a slight trend towards this such as the Nectar card deal. In a recent interview Carolyn didn't rule out codeshares, interline and alliances and I think that maybe something along those lines might be in the pipeline. Perhaps with Flybe. Who knows.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 16:03
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The biggest & possibly the most "interesting" development would be to introduce interlining.
It can be done as per Germanwings, Air Berlin & the biggest of them all Southwest.
If EZY wanna be different to the crowd - it's the way to go.
As for buying Baby or anyone else... I just don't see the benefits.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 18:33
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I'm very much aware that this is all highly speculative armchair CEO stuff but I could see a benefit to merging Easyjet and Wizz given their common fleets and their networks having very little overlap - one has bases in eastern Europe while the other has bases almost entirely in western Europe (apologies to those who prefer the term 'central Europe').
Furthermore because Wizz is currently less than a quarter of the size of Easyjet, it's a relatively manageable mouthful to digest and unlikely to cause severe indigestion.

As to whether bilateral rights for non EU routes would permit this or whether competition regulators would OK this or even whether Easyjet could amass 50.1% of the shares (do Indigo still have a big holding ?) I have no idea. Finally there is the question as to what Stelios would think of a significant acquisition - particularly of an airline with a large orderbook

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Old 4th Apr 2012, 19:44
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I'm not totally familiar with Wizz but aren't they a myriad of franchises under the Wizz name?

Either way, Eastern Europe isn't really a big focus for Easyjet. You forget that they have had the strength to open up bases and gain a dominant position in the Eastern European markets but they haven't apart from a few routes inbound to a few places like PRG.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 19:53
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How about easy joining up with virgin either codeshare/merging or buying a share of virgin, instant brand recognition, should they have problems with stelios again, although could be jumping out of the pot and into the fire with the beardy one
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Wouldn't be the first easyVirgin I'd have come accross if it happened
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 20:06
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I believe Flybe. might be a better fit at the moment. They have gone for a hub approach at MAN recently and EZY owns LGW with the opportunities that has for BE. All bluesky thinking of course.
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