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The problem is fella is that this is mainly a pilots forum not an investors forum and whilst the financial health of your employer is important because in most cases the better they are doing the better you'll do this does not seem to apply to your beloved FR!
I work for neither FR or Easy but if had to work for another airline FR would be at the very bottom of my list, this has of course nothing to do with the pilots and cc at FR, but knowing a good number who have worked for both of the above a substantial number of FR want out the not the case at Easy.
Yes FR are more profitable, they are unethical as well, a chunk of the extra margin that FR comes from some very questionable employment arrangement of it's pilots many seem to be self employed not by choice but by decree working out of the Republic but neither working there or living there, not paying UK NI but living in the UK.
If some with more IT skills than me ( won't be difficult!) can set up a poll on here about who you would least like to work for then I would expect FR to top it.
FR why o why is an employer trying to enforce 2-3 months of unpaid leave one minute because there is no flying to be had and at the same time flying the Tango aircrafts socks of with new pilots
Yes great airline if your an investor at least for now, but everyone else involved it's not quite the deal you thought you signed up for, still at least when your positioning on your day off doing your sim, which you've paid for, tax deductible on your day off your helping keep the fares down.
FR must be the only airline with a AAA credit rating that Aiirbus won't do business with.......
So back to pilots stuff please or bugger off to Paddy power investor forum
I work for neither FR or Easy but if had to work for another airline FR would be at the very bottom of my list, this has of course nothing to do with the pilots and cc at FR, but knowing a good number who have worked for both of the above a substantial number of FR want out the not the case at Easy.
Yes FR are more profitable, they are unethical as well, a chunk of the extra margin that FR comes from some very questionable employment arrangement of it's pilots many seem to be self employed not by choice but by decree working out of the Republic but neither working there or living there, not paying UK NI but living in the UK.
If some with more IT skills than me ( won't be difficult!) can set up a poll on here about who you would least like to work for then I would expect FR to top it.
FR why o why is an employer trying to enforce 2-3 months of unpaid leave one minute because there is no flying to be had and at the same time flying the Tango aircrafts socks of with new pilots
Yes great airline if your an investor at least for now, but everyone else involved it's not quite the deal you thought you signed up for, still at least when your positioning on your day off doing your sim, which you've paid for, tax deductible on your day off your helping keep the fares down.
FR must be the only airline with a AAA credit rating that Aiirbus won't do business with.......
So back to pilots stuff please or bugger off to Paddy power investor forum
INKJET - as far as I am aware, Ryanair do not have a long term credit rating, most likely because they have not issued any bonds or other form of readily tradable debt securities. Just for good measure, I've also checked for credit default swaps from which one might be able to infer an implied credit rating, but again I drew a blank. It should be noted that Easyjet are in the same position - no credit rating, no tradable debt and no observable CDS.
It should of course be noted that a company usually has to pay one of Moody's, Standard & Poor's or Fitch for a public credit rating - thus removing the incentive in part for Ryanair to have a rating. In any case, if anyone thinks Ryanair is deemed as low a risk as AAA they are probably very optimistic
It should of course be noted that a company usually has to pay one of Moody's, Standard & Poor's or Fitch for a public credit rating - thus removing the incentive in part for Ryanair to have a rating. In any case, if anyone thinks Ryanair is deemed as low a risk as AAA they are probably very optimistic
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Worth more breaking for parts than selling...........
Inkjet
Didn't notice you commenting on the last time when U2 737's went to Kemble when break up rather than sale was discussed.
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post6351720
Didn't notice you commenting on the last time when U2 737's went to Kemble when break up rather than sale was discussed.
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post6351720
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Is LPL to FUE dropped for Summer 2012? Cannot see it on sale but ACE is so perhaps it is becoming a winter only route?
Also see the baggage charges have gone up again £14 ew from LPL to GIB - will soon be cheaper to buy an extra seat! In fact for our 2 bags one way it would have been! But hey, they can say the average fare is low still!
NMS
Also see the baggage charges have gone up again £14 ew from LPL to GIB - will soon be cheaper to buy an extra seat! In fact for our 2 bags one way it would have been! But hey, they can say the average fare is low still!
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Put one on storage maybe like they did with Monarch's DC-10 that would be good
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easyJet to open a base in Lisbon
easyJet to open a base in Lisbon
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Sigh. Looks like I'll have to get my anorak on.
EZS introduced the Airbus at easyJet. The first five went to EZS as HB-JZA - ZE, delivered in 2003. A short while later (2004) these went over the the UK AOC and now have G- registrations.
Between 2004 and 2007, twelve other A319s came the other way (HB-JZF - ZQ). These were then supplemented over the last couple of years by a further five (ZS - ZW), making it 17. Two (HB-JZG and H) went off lease early this year, leaving it at 15.
The A320s were on the UK AOC for a short time before going to EZS.
The fleet do not swap backwards and forwards. EZS is a subsidiary with its own management and own crew. The crew do not operate on each others' aircraft - if a 'rescue' is required using an aircraft from the other AOC, it will have crew from the respective AOC.
Certainly in the [x] number of years I've been here, we have not "moved aircraft around in the winter and summer periods". The only two that have left EZS, since the original five that moved permanently to EZY, have gone off lease permanently and are now with Brussels Airlines.
You're either talking about way before my time, or your source is incorrect.
EZS introduced the Airbus at easyJet. The first five went to EZS as HB-JZA - ZE, delivered in 2003. A short while later (2004) these went over the the UK AOC and now have G- registrations.
Between 2004 and 2007, twelve other A319s came the other way (HB-JZF - ZQ). These were then supplemented over the last couple of years by a further five (ZS - ZW), making it 17. Two (HB-JZG and H) went off lease early this year, leaving it at 15.
The A320s were on the UK AOC for a short time before going to EZS.
The fleet do not swap backwards and forwards. EZS is a subsidiary with its own management and own crew. The crew do not operate on each others' aircraft - if a 'rescue' is required using an aircraft from the other AOC, it will have crew from the respective AOC.
Certainly in the [x] number of years I've been here, we have not "moved aircraft around in the winter and summer periods". The only two that have left EZS, since the original five that moved permanently to EZY, have gone off lease permanently and are now with Brussels Airlines.
You're either talking about way before my time, or your source is incorrect.
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