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Old 30th Aug 2011, 20:15
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Wrong.

There is nothing to stop Ryanair opening a route from SEN.
Are there not runway length issues for the B738?

Also, surely SEN management would have to be "onboard" with Ryanair too?
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 20:42
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Are there not runway length issues for the B738?

Also, surely SEN management would have to be "onboard" with Ryanair too?
Given they supposed to be flying into Alterhein with a shorter airport how is it an issue ?

As for airport management being onboard with airlines !!!!!...........since when has this been a requirement.
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 21:03
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Given they supposed to be flying into Alterhein with a shorter airport how is it an issue ?
Sorry, I didn't know off the top of my head the technical data for Alterhein...

You say "supposed to" - so are they flying into Alterhein, or are they not? Didn't see anything on Alterhein or Ryanair's websites.


As for airport management being onboard with airlines !!!!!...........since when has this been a requirement.
Good one!
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 21:46
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is it not upto sen managment to to say who they want or dont want
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 21:49
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If they refused to let FR have access they'd get destroyed in court, it's a free market, not a cosy cartel.
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 22:00
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is it not upto sen managment to to say who they want or dont want
No as any attempt by an airport to exclude an airline in favour of another airline where there is no slot issue is anti competitive and would rightly be subject to hefty for operating a cartel.

Do you think LHR should be able to turn around to LH and say we prefer BA/IB so you can't fly in here ?
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 22:27
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SEN has an ordinary use licence, and is intending up to 2MPPA, therefore is no reason they cannot say 'no' to an airline, if they did not want them in there.
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 22:49
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A very good point, SEN has an ordinary licence rather than public licence, any operations at SEN require the authority of the licensee.
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 07:09
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Maybe because they see the possibility of greater economic benefits to them as an airport by encouraging Easyjet with their larger aircraft to open more routes than a much smaller gain for another part of the group with smaller aircraft on one route.

(This is a response to the following post which somehow has slipped below mine)
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 07:13
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Why on earth would the company that owns Southend Airport and virtually owns Aer Arann (and saved it out of Administration) let another airline take the route to Dublin, Aer Arann's home base?
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 07:28
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The 738 would be extremely payload restricted out of SEN and it's misleading just to quote a runway paved length as being the deciding factor. It's TODA and LDA that generally decide the issue and they are often quite different to paved length.
Belfast City's distances impose, I believe, payload restrictions on the 738 yet the TODAs and LDAs there are considerably in excess of those at SEN.
It would obviously be physically possible for Ryanair to operate from SEN with a very restricted pax payload but I simply cannot see it happening because the restrictions would be just too great.
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 09:49
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Why on earth would the company that owns Southend Airport and virtually owns Aer Arann (and saved it out of Administration) let another airline take the route to Dublin, Aer Arann's home base?
In the real world imagine what happen's if they said "No we don't want you. We prefer high prices in an ATR rather than mass prices in a B738 to Dublin."

That's what you're saying. Also wanting to protect their own airline, or "protectionism" is I am fairly sure, illegal once you start putting barriers in the way of the other guy.
Yes the B738 is restricted but if FR saw fit to, the Republic of Ireland is do-able from SEN easily. Would the public choose Aer Arann? I doubt it!
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 10:07
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If it came to it, Ryanair could wet-lease some 757 to operate from SEN just to make a point
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 10:38
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The public would choose Aer Arann IF it was Aer Lingus Regional, I'm sure
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 17:04
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S12 EasyJet

Do we know an idea as to when Summer 2012 flights (ie July.Aug) will be released? Most concerned about BFS Belfast.
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 17:09
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Yeh I'm quite surprised July figures are down again on last year, and more than likely will be down again next year when there is more competition from Belfast city and baby
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Old 1st Sep 2011, 20:54
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Smile Easy Jet to Kefalonia?? True or false?

Taken from a Greek site, any truth in this??

"It has been announced that Easyjet will be flying to Kefalonia next year!!

Those of us with EOT licences have already been contacted to confirm this."
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Old 2nd Sep 2011, 09:02
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Cool

Just an update, any Easy staff out there to confirm or deny??

" According to the Kefaloniapress Easyjet will announce this in about ten days. As I mentioned OEEDKI have already confirmed this in writing to their members. "
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 17:14
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Cool

Well I must say of all the forums that I have posted this question I thought this one would come up trumps, sadly not!! Thanks to Tripadvisor for coming up with the answer!!
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Old 6th Sep 2011, 12:51
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August figures

Passengers: 5,543,961 +6.5%
Load Factor: 92.2% -0.1 pp
http://production.investis.com/rns_i...tem?id=4490718
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