"Bye Bye Baby" on FR jets at BHX
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As said, those titles are flying around for years already. But theres no "Bye Bye Air Berlin" as said. Out of curiosity, you may catch:
EI-DLF - "Bye Bye Skyeurope"
EI-DLG - "Zegnamy Pll Lot"
EI-DLM - "Bye Bye Latehansa"
EI-DLN - "Bye Bye Baby"
EI-DLO - "Bye Bye EasyJet"
EI-CSZ - "Arrivederci Alitalia" is not flying anymore.
EI-DLF - "Bye Bye Skyeurope"
EI-DLG - "Zegnamy Pll Lot"
EI-DLM - "Bye Bye Latehansa"
EI-DLN - "Bye Bye Baby"
EI-DLO - "Bye Bye EasyJet"
EI-CSZ - "Arrivederci Alitalia" is not flying anymore.
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ballsout, you assume alot dont you? I wouldnt lower myself to even apply let alone work for the evil pikey, because i am throwing back at ryanair what it spouts about others makes me a failed applicant! LOL grow up AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE SPOUTING. If you work for them and are proud of this rediculous playground chanting on the side of their aircraft then you are beyond help 
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exactly scratchingthesky, Ryanair are experts at diverting publicity away from themselfs when times are tough, chanting and pointing the finger at other airlines , making accusations about their balance books or viabilty which often have no base of fact at all.
The FACTS are that ryanair is in a very tough financial position, as scratchingthesky pointed out they HAVE to take delivery of 63 new 737s, their normal re-financing channels have dried up due to the credit crunch, load factors are down, pulling off routes, blaming airports for their woes (Dublin , STN etc). shutting down of check in, years of treating crews and passengers like low life....it all adds up to a very tough time for ryanair, and they hope by diverting attention away from themselfs that the real truth does not come out.
the truth is out there!!
The FACTS are that ryanair is in a very tough financial position, as scratchingthesky pointed out they HAVE to take delivery of 63 new 737s, their normal re-financing channels have dried up due to the credit crunch, load factors are down, pulling off routes, blaming airports for their woes (Dublin , STN etc). shutting down of check in, years of treating crews and passengers like low life....it all adds up to a very tough time for ryanair, and they hope by diverting attention away from themselfs that the real truth does not come out.
the truth is out there!!
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scratchingthesky...I understand that RYR hedged at $129 for the months Nov-Jan only...after that they were marginally or 0 hedged which actually gives them a massive cost advantage over their rivals for the remainder of the summer and well into 2010 as many companies actually bought forward fearing the $200 dollars a barrel cr@p that was being touted a while back 
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i cant believe a post exists on this
Harrogate - your post is the best on this subject so far.
dont you guys have better things to discuss than what we write on our planes?
anyway its all true. bmi baby will be down the plughole quicker than you can shout 'abortion'
dont you guys have better things to discuss than what we write on our planes?
anyway its all true. bmi baby will be down the plughole quicker than you can shout 'abortion'
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The thing is bmi baby or easyjet or any airline may go down the plug hole. However if they do 90% of the British public will have a lot of sympathy. If FR go down the plug hole then the public will be split, as FR have become the dogs b-----ks of the air. I have never come across a product whereby a lot of people I know avoid like the plague and are vocal about it. These people have nothing to do with aviation, they are just travellers.
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It's a charmless airline, run by a fairly unpleasant individual. They don't get a penny of my cash, and I cheerfully pay more to use their competitors.
Comparisons with The Sun are quite apt.
Comparisons with The Sun are quite apt.
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Comparisons with The Sun are quite apt.
Bye Bye Baby produced a smile many years ago, but the joke is long dead. Is there any other industry where competitors actually run-down their opponents to such an extent as FR does. Most people don't appreciate this unprofessional way.
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Don't make the mistake of thinking we Pilots are happy about these slogans or think they are funny. It is quite embarrassing and humiliating to turn up somewhere in Europe with a slogan that offends everyone from the Air Traffic Control to the baggage handlers, we often end up bearing the brunt of their ill feelings. This super aggressive attitude to everything and everyone is counter productive sometimes. It's why we get delaying vectors into Madrid and Iberia get preferential treatment, Management fail to see that it ends up being counter productive!
Is there any other industry where competitors actually run-down their opponents to such an extent as FR does.
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I suppose I am generalising
Yes I remember all those.... I was kind of thinking of other industries, like the supermarkets engage in a bit of banter, with regards to the price of products etc but they tend to stop short of 'piss off Asda', and I just thought that there is some kind of law against running down the competition directly in this way.
I suppose I am generalising
Yes I remember all those.... I was kind of thinking of other industries, like the supermarkets engage in a bit of banter, with regards to the price of products etc but they tend to stop short of 'piss off Asda', and I just thought that there is some kind of law against running down the competition directly in this way.
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I'm an italian, ex Alitalia, and for me it's quite funny to have Arrivederci Alitalia, if the fuel guy idiot and ingnorant from Pisa ( so for sure a ******* Communist like alla tuscany idiots) doesn't want to fuel my plane he can **** off and be fired.
He is a fuking slave if he doesn't fuel I'll make sure he's going to work somewhere else, now we have to take order from the fueller? the cpt has to depends from a servant? no thanks!
Alitalia it's actually one of the worst airlines in europe, and with it's pilot the symptom of the italian corruption inefficence and complete inattitude to aviation.
The story of Alitalia it's unfortunately very bad, as I heard, you guys will see a big scandal documented by a journalist about az pilots taking drugs ecc ecc..one year ago i saw myself on a news paper one died for overdose ecc + the thing i had to see with my eyes.
If ryanair wants to make a joke about this idiots he's entitled to do it for sure, ryan and easy are still being shafted by assholeclearence italy every day..to save the zombie alitalia with his superfantastic pilots with 6 stripes and 3 stars..who are actually the joke of aviation..
Everytime i see the arrivederci Alitalia at stansted onestly..I'm very happy..Alitalia Zombie can do everything he wants..at least..let Ryanair jokes about these superidiots hoping for them less cocaine and more professionalism
He is a fuking slave if he doesn't fuel I'll make sure he's going to work somewhere else, now we have to take order from the fueller? the cpt has to depends from a servant? no thanks!
Alitalia it's actually one of the worst airlines in europe, and with it's pilot the symptom of the italian corruption inefficence and complete inattitude to aviation.
The story of Alitalia it's unfortunately very bad, as I heard, you guys will see a big scandal documented by a journalist about az pilots taking drugs ecc ecc..one year ago i saw myself on a news paper one died for overdose ecc + the thing i had to see with my eyes.
If ryanair wants to make a joke about this idiots he's entitled to do it for sure, ryan and easy are still being shafted by assholeclearence italy every day..to save the zombie alitalia with his superfantastic pilots with 6 stripes and 3 stars..who are actually the joke of aviation..
Everytime i see the arrivederci Alitalia at stansted onestly..I'm very happy..Alitalia Zombie can do everything he wants..at least..let Ryanair jokes about these superidiots hoping for them less cocaine and more professionalism
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In the past, I have flown several times (as a passenger) to Italy on EI-CSZ (Arrivederci Alitalia) and nothing special ever happened at the Italian airports.
I was on a Bergamo-Charleroi flight wednesday, it was EI-DLN "Bye bye Baby" and not many passengers (if any) paid attention to what was written on it. Most of them were Italian or Belgian and don't even know who is that Baby.
I was on a Bergamo-Charleroi flight wednesday, it was EI-DLN "Bye bye Baby" and not many passengers (if any) paid attention to what was written on it. Most of them were Italian or Belgian and don't even know who is that Baby.
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Maybe a few people need to calm down a bit.
The "Bye Bye" slogans may not mean hoping the competitor carrier goes out of business, just that they are pushed off competing routes.
Anyone in an airline that does not belief that pushing the competitor carrier off the route is delightful is not in the real world.
It is what competition is all about. It happens on every competitive route, and there are competition laws in place to prevent airlines working as a secret cartell.
I dont work for FR, or any of the LoCos, but am fully aware that the airline I work for does engage in price wars with the aim of pushing the competitor off the route.
Clearly we do not wish competitor airlines out of business, no way, but we are cheered up no-end when they pull off routes we fly.
Happy flying everyone. The sky is a big place. Airlines that do their service well - full, loco, charter - all deserve a long life.
Peace be the journey :-)
The "Bye Bye" slogans may not mean hoping the competitor carrier goes out of business, just that they are pushed off competing routes.
Anyone in an airline that does not belief that pushing the competitor carrier off the route is delightful is not in the real world.
It is what competition is all about. It happens on every competitive route, and there are competition laws in place to prevent airlines working as a secret cartell.
I dont work for FR, or any of the LoCos, but am fully aware that the airline I work for does engage in price wars with the aim of pushing the competitor off the route.
Clearly we do not wish competitor airlines out of business, no way, but we are cheered up no-end when they pull off routes we fly.
Happy flying everyone. The sky is a big place. Airlines that do their service well - full, loco, charter - all deserve a long life.
Peace be the journey :-)
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It is what competition is all about.
Simples.
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Care to state your source and show some evidence for your statement?
I've already been sent to the naughty corner once for apparently 'personally abusing' you when you made yet another of your sweeping unfounded and untrue statements. After all, if it looks like a plant pot then it most probably is a plant pot. Saying so is no longer allowed apparently. I know you won't state any evidence as you can't.
Ryanair are like the playground bully, trying to push others around and blame whoever the hell they can for their failings in the rather desparate hope that any sort of attention will not fall on their own deficiencies. Bullies inevitably get found out in the fullness of time.
Guess what....the market is crap for everyone and that includes Ryanair. With bells on.
anyway its all true.
I've already been sent to the naughty corner once for apparently 'personally abusing' you when you made yet another of your sweeping unfounded and untrue statements. After all, if it looks like a plant pot then it most probably is a plant pot. Saying so is no longer allowed apparently. I know you won't state any evidence as you can't.
Ryanair are like the playground bully, trying to push others around and blame whoever the hell they can for their failings in the rather desparate hope that any sort of attention will not fall on their own deficiencies. Bullies inevitably get found out in the fullness of time.
Guess what....the market is crap for everyone and that includes Ryanair. With bells on.
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There will be a lot of changes in Europe this year, Ryanair need to find finance for 50+ new aircraft at a cost of at least $750 million and will find it more and more difficult to churn their 3 year old aircraft on which much of their business plan depends. Ryanair have enjoyed a huge advantage since it pledged large orders post 9/11 in many ways the purchase and lease back of aircraft is the business and not flying people around for next to nothing.
Don't get me wrong, all credit to MOL for taking Boeing and the market by the balls, but the pro Ryanair Ppruners are sometimes taking in by the bull that comes out of MOL mouth and appear to think that Ryanair can do no wrong, history tends to prove otherwise. Who would have thought 2 years ago that many of our banks would be bust in all but name with shares now 95% lower than back then. As the pressure mounts on Ryanair they will have to constantly seek ways to lower costs and increase revenue, for pax we all know what that means, more importantly for crews in a market place awash with trained crews it can only mean lower real incomes.
Cadets will only be paid when they fly and to avoid any union problems with Captains they will use an ever increasing number of contracting companies.
Ryanair do many things very well and rightly have a high reputation for on time performance and reliability and of course price, their cabin are by and large stunning (then again so are many Eastern European prostitutes) the big danger for the rest of the airline industry will come when MOL moves on and they get someone with a little more charm, Ryanair will cease to be the butt of jokes (the Times "20 reasons not to fly Ryanair" article this week) provided they don't run out of cash first, we all know of Ryanair assests, few know the true story of their debts and its one from the other that matters in the end when credit is hard to come by.
Don't get me wrong, all credit to MOL for taking Boeing and the market by the balls, but the pro Ryanair Ppruners are sometimes taking in by the bull that comes out of MOL mouth and appear to think that Ryanair can do no wrong, history tends to prove otherwise. Who would have thought 2 years ago that many of our banks would be bust in all but name with shares now 95% lower than back then. As the pressure mounts on Ryanair they will have to constantly seek ways to lower costs and increase revenue, for pax we all know what that means, more importantly for crews in a market place awash with trained crews it can only mean lower real incomes.
Cadets will only be paid when they fly and to avoid any union problems with Captains they will use an ever increasing number of contracting companies.
Ryanair do many things very well and rightly have a high reputation for on time performance and reliability and of course price, their cabin are by and large stunning (then again so are many Eastern European prostitutes) the big danger for the rest of the airline industry will come when MOL moves on and they get someone with a little more charm, Ryanair will cease to be the butt of jokes (the Times "20 reasons not to fly Ryanair" article this week) provided they don't run out of cash first, we all know of Ryanair assests, few know the true story of their debts and its one from the other that matters in the end when credit is hard to come by.