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Old 13th Jul 2013, 12:15
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Where are DY going to get the LGW slots from, we are talking around 25 extra slots if they plan to double base.
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 13:51
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Well NAS still have a few 300's so JSY or BHD wouldn't be a problem, but they are due to be phased out, having said that they were due to be gone by now!

NAS have a preference for using air bridges so i think EMA is unlikely, if its not MAN then I think BHX is most likely, unless Jet2 get there before them? NAS have the aircraft with 6 or 7 new 738 due before Xmas and around 8 units due in 2014, long term i think BHX makes far more sense than EMA, Monarch,Jet2 & FR already provide huge lift to the MED. Monarch at BHX would be an easier target and Monarch customer base is much closer to Norwegian's than say FR.

BHX-ARN would be very easy for them, ditto GOT,OSL,HEL

NAS cost per seat is now below that of Easyjet (just) and have gone into LGW and added 176,000 pax in Q2 yoy, can't see it before S14 but they could run some Canary flights to test the water this winter?
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 14:03
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if its not MAN then I think BHX is most likely
Would NAX go straight into BHX with a base, without testing the water at least?

Seems to be the norm that low costs try a couple of routes with non based aircraft first, and then go for a base. They only have this winter to test before the S14 date?

Its another reason why I don't see LPL being the base just yet. Whilst it would be a huge coup to snatch the base from the jaws of MAN, they only have 1 route at LPL which is currently being run with an incentive from CPH. It will be cut from 3 weekly to 2 weekly at the end of October, which is hardly encouraging news for setting up a base? However, at the same time:

NAS have a preference for using air bridges
This hardly put them off Liverpool did it?
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 14:57
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NAS at EMA/LTN

Buster, if as you say close to the MI motorway, the only airports would be EMA and LTN , with the extra terminal space due to open end of 2013, I put my 2p on EMA, I have a view that MAG will try long haul from EMA.regardsStuart
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 16:30
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I highly doubt that it will be EMA or LTN as NAS don't have any services from there already.

I think it is likely to be LPL. Why would they start a new service there recently if they had been at other airports first?
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 16:40
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I think it is likely to be LPL
So from a 2 weekly flight to a 2 aircraft base? Quite hopeful!

Why would they start a new service there recently if they had been at other
airports first?
Incentives? CPH offered a subsidy for LPL don't forget.
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 19:33
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Danish very keen on football, can't see Derby county having the same pull??

MAD & BCN are more important in the short term, that and growing LGW
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 20:22
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Lax LHR I already told him that on his forum and was banned

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 07:45
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I'm flying LGW-TFS in September with Norwegian. Currently planned for a B738. Any chance this might change to a B788 ?
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 13:13
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norwegian shuttle

Guys does anybody know how long it takes for them to reply to an application, or do they reply??? i applied through Park Aviation for Captain 738 three week s ago but they didnt reply to me to say yes or no? anybody knows how it works with them???
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 14:02
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There's two massive football clubs in Glasgow. Would be nice to see NAS bring the Danes over to watch them play.

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 18:48
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Also all Swansea City matches are shown live across all of Denmark and the team have a huge following (prob spend a tad too much time there) as Michael Laudrup is a national celebrity and also Swansea's manager.

Who knows BLL and / or CPH to CWL
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 20:33
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There's two massive football clubs in Glasgow
Indeed, Celtic and Partick Thistle are iconic.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 20:56
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I think it is likely to be LPL. Why would they start a new service there recently if they had been at other airports first?



Meanwhile, back in the real world, you think it is likely to be LPL, with the only NAS presence being a route sponsored and subsidised by Copenhagen, reduced to two weekly, which has been known to have loads in the teens.

Yes, let's make a base, based on that stunning performance.

Get real.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 22:04
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To be fair stoneybridge, I have it on pretty good authority that LPL are currently in talks to start a further 8 routes next year (mostly bucket and spade)... Also that NAS are quite pleased with the operation out of Liverpool, despite the loads not being amazing (they never expected them to be on the copenhagen route).

However, by no means is anything concrete yet. NAS are also talking to Manchester by all accounts.

So yes, back in the real world... Sorry to burst your arrogant bubble

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 22:42
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From another prune forum
its already been Decided and its not LJLA DAMN
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 23:40
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To be fair stoneybridge, I have it on pretty good authority that LPL are
currently in talks to start a further 8 routes next year
LPL talking to NAX, well, one would hope so! Is it likely? As has been pointed out (but seems to be continently overlooked by the LPL supporters, seems to be a knack for that) is that LPL has 1 route, at 2 weekly from October (3 weekly only operates for a few months). Foundations for a base? Hardly.

despite the loads not being amazing (they never expected them to be on the
copenhagen route)
So, let me get this straight, you are trying to convince us that an airline started a route and expected it to perform poorly, and with the word never thrown in, obviously had no forecast to improve? And with 'expected' poor performance you still expect a base? Erm, ok?


NAS are also talking to Manchester by all accounts.
Again, one would hope so! But, at the end of the day, depends who is more desperate, Liverpool certainly needs NAX more than Manchester does.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 00:50
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LAX, I think its a given that a sun route by DY anywhere in the UK will do well, they are doing CPH from LPL because I expect the financial benefit is higher than the cost of the route running. I don't think they will base their but loads on CPH mean very little as once us Brits can get to the sun we couldn't care who gets use their. If MAN is picked sooner or lather a carrier will exit MAN as their is only a certain amount of bucket and spade traffic sustainable at all airports and MAN is reaching the limits as are others. There was a gap to an extent for DY at LGW but something going to give at some point.

Its not the first time that DY have used incentive schemes to their advantage and once its up LPL-CPH will be dropped unless their is a surge in passenger numbers.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 09:24
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If MAN is picked sooner or lather a carrier will exit MAN as their is only a
certain amount of bucket and spade traffic sustainable at all airports and MAN is reaching the limits as are others
I wouldn't say MAN is reaching its limit quite yet. I did previously share this scepticism, but, take Palma for example.
There were already something like 14 flights on some days, but, Ryanair made MAN-PMI 2 daily and Jetairfly joined the fold this year, yet most MAN-PMI flights are heading out with loads of over 90%, some full.
It seems that on some routes, capacity can be added and it just keeps growing.

I would say that at the right frequency, there is easily more room for extra flights, as its also worth noting MAN still isn't quite back up to its heyday pax figures wise and there routes have always been its bread and butter.

In any case, a Norwegian base is not just about fun in the sun. There are routes to places like Helsinki, Trondheim, Gothenburg and Alesund that will be added, as well as extra capacity to Oslo and Stockholm, all routes that stand a better chance of working at MAN (Gothenburg for example really needs opening to the masses from MAN, currently BA run the route and the prices/capacity are more akin to a private jet!)
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 12:29
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routes that stand a better chance of working at MAN (Gothenburg for example really needs opening to the masses from MAN, currently BA run the route and the prices/capacity are more akin to a private jet!)
Did EZY not try MAN-GOT for a while before giving up ?
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