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I thought I had posted on here about tcx replacing the 757's for 2 new A321
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I asked a pilot the other day and they may do one of the following
Limit the amount of pax to 200 per flight or
Land somewhere on route maybe DTV as longer runway
They still haven't sorted out the programme fully yet so we may see odd flights being done by 757 still
Limit the amount of pax to 200 per flight or
Land somewhere on route maybe DTV as longer runway
They still haven't sorted out the programme fully yet so we may see odd flights being done by 757 still
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I was under the impression the new A321s with sharklets were capable of a full load on routes like Northern UK to Egypt?
Finnair have just started them HEL-Canaries.
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Aeulad
Finnair have just started them HEL-Canaries.
Kind regards
Aeulad
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A321's
Hi,
Yes, the A321's with Sharklets do have more than enough range for NCL-SSH, BUT, they can't do it full from NCL's runway. They are being used, or will be being used by Finnair on routes from Helsinki to the Canaries, Egypt and also to Dubai replacing their 757's which are off to Aer Lingus.
The A321's may just mess up NCL, it will struggle to the Canaries and Turkey on bad days and it will also take a really bad hit to Sharm. Especially if it doesn't have sharklets. Also, it will mean that they can't do JSI-NCL non stop anymore, which was bound to happen at some point anyway.
I can hopefully see them realising the mistake and bringing back the 757's for 2015. I think NCL is the wrong airport for this "experiment." They should wait until they have the Sharkletted A321's and they have proven themselves.
Yes, the A321's with Sharklets do have more than enough range for NCL-SSH, BUT, they can't do it full from NCL's runway. They are being used, or will be being used by Finnair on routes from Helsinki to the Canaries, Egypt and also to Dubai replacing their 757's which are off to Aer Lingus.
The A321's may just mess up NCL, it will struggle to the Canaries and Turkey on bad days and it will also take a really bad hit to Sharm. Especially if it doesn't have sharklets. Also, it will mean that they can't do JSI-NCL non stop anymore, which was bound to happen at some point anyway.
I can hopefully see them realising the mistake and bringing back the 757's for 2015. I think NCL is the wrong airport for this "experiment." They should wait until they have the Sharkletted A321's and they have proven themselves.
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The contract for the runway extension at LGSK was awarded and with almost an extra 3T of lift and 150nm of additional range, Id be surprised if there was any major ops deficit compared with a 757 using a charter config with minimal cargo. Just a shame the 02 mirage landing will still exist. Even some 757s have had to stop enroute out.
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Newcastle Runway 25
It's a long time ago now - 1995 - but I've twice operated Newcastle - Bangor Maine in a 757-200. I remember that 25 was obstacle limited. On both occasions, we managed to take off on 07 and make Bangor without a tech stop, 6hr 36 min airborne being the longer of the two flights.
I've always understood it was not the absolute runway length but the obstacle limit on 25 which is the problem (although I'm not clear on what the obstacle is!), so if TCX go A.321 they might be hoping for a summer of easterlies.
Alternatively those performance limited destinations could be op as W's by 757's from other bases or with tech stops - seems a lot of disruption to the programme, but do able if they are keen to get the 321's in.
Alternatively those performance limited destinations could be op as W's by 757's from other bases or with tech stops - seems a lot of disruption to the programme, but do able if they are keen to get the 321's in.
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More issues yesterday with YL-LCL. Hydraulic leak out of Palma leading to diversion to Barcelona. Finally returned to NCL at 08.29 this morning. Will TCX be using Smartlynx again next year?
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Next year we are supposed to be getting an A320, whether it be from SmartLynx or not, thats to be seen.
However the problems with -LCL this year we mostly down to that aircraft being a problem.
S12 -LCI was up here and that had very few problems with that a/c from what I can remember, so just as long as we get a half decent a/c that is not going to go tech every 5 minutes, we might just be OK
However the problems with -LCL this year we mostly down to that aircraft being a problem.
S12 -LCI was up here and that had very few problems with that a/c from what I can remember, so just as long as we get a half decent a/c that is not going to go tech every 5 minutes, we might just be OK
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its the kind of disruption imo people going on holiday dont need ! lets hope the 757s stay a little longer
does anyone know what the TCX 767 will be operating this winter as mentioned above ?
does anyone know what the TCX 767 will be operating this winter as mentioned above ?
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TCX and the 757
The main problem is that the 757's are LEAVING the fleet in the next few years and being replaced by the Airbus A321!!
So really they have no choice and they think that the A321 is best suited to there needs.
Thomson are using 738's as there main type now but have less seats to the A321. Looks like TCX are trying to keep to the same size aircraft
So really they have no choice and they think that the A321 is best suited to there needs.
Thomson are using 738's as there main type now but have less seats to the A321. Looks like TCX are trying to keep to the same size aircraft
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At a time when Thomas Cook must be looking at every single cost (with the aim of reducing it), I think a 767 for 2/3 flights a week is a non-starter.
I would suspect a fuel stop with a based aircraft (A321) is far cheaper than positioning a non-based aircraft and crew for a couple of days.
I would suspect a fuel stop with a based aircraft (A321) is far cheaper than positioning a non-based aircraft and crew for a couple of days.
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TCX 767 W pattern?
What is there were a possibility the 767's could be operated on W pattern from either MAN or LGW. i.e
MAN-TFS-NCL-TFS-MAN
Or
LGW-SSH-NCL-SSH-LGW
I can see a new found tech stop to a popular destination (as opposed to Skiathos which is a bit of a niche destination and has always had them on most routes) being more of a deterrent than crappier flight times on aforementioned routes. Unless it were to depart LGW/MAN late the night before, to arrive at NCL for an early morning departure and afternoon arrival.
I don't know, it's all speculation and in all honesty we're not going to make a difference haha, it's nice to hear other's opinions on the matter haha.
MAN-TFS-NCL-TFS-MAN
Or
LGW-SSH-NCL-SSH-LGW
I can see a new found tech stop to a popular destination (as opposed to Skiathos which is a bit of a niche destination and has always had them on most routes) being more of a deterrent than crappier flight times on aforementioned routes. Unless it were to depart LGW/MAN late the night before, to arrive at NCL for an early morning departure and afternoon arrival.
I don't know, it's all speculation and in all honesty we're not going to make a difference haha, it's nice to hear other's opinions on the matter haha.
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Yes your right. Have Easyjet forced them off the route, or have the flights not been loaded yet. I see the DTV Jersey flights are scheduled now on an EMB jet aircraft wheras the NCL ones bookable are on Q400s.